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Old 07-28-2008, 09:20 PM
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Awesome... so does this mean a 2001 and later PCM has more tuning capability? If so, this would be the first Ive heard of that.
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Originally Posted by Cobra4B
Awesome... so does this mean a 2001 and later PCM has more tuning capability? If so, this would be the first Ive heard of that.
The 97-98 have less refined tables and a slower processor. Ed had to repin the entire PCM harness to use the newer PCM. The 99+ are pretty much all the same.
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Kinda felt like this for a few hours after staring at all that little crap.
Me eyes aint watt they used to be.
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Originally Posted by edcmat-l1
Kinda felt like this for a few hours after staring at all that little crap.
Me eyes aint watt they used to be.
As long as it's just your eyes, you're in good shape for a man your age.

Any time on the dyno yet?
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Originally Posted by WKMCD
As long as it's just your eyes, you're in good shape for a man your age.

Any time on the dyno yet?
Workin on the tank sender right this minute. Seems its the pass side one, not the drivers. Looks like its not picking up the last 2, 3 gallons from that side.
Should have it on the dyno later today.
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Can't wait to see the results!
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Originally Posted by edcmat-l1
Workin on the tank sender right this minute. Seems its the pass side one, not the drivers. Looks like its not picking up the last 2, 3 gallons from that side.
Should have it on the dyno later today.
WOOHOO!!! Fingers crossed. I'm not really thinking we'll pickup much if anything up top but hopefully pickup some nice RWT and average power.

Not picking up three gallons is about right based on empty to full.
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Do you have the Weiand on order?
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Originally Posted by veee8
Do you have the Weiand on order?
I'll order one WHEN/IF they are available.

I spoke with Ed this afternoon. Some other small work is holding things up some. He had to order the passenger side sending fuel sending unit today. He should have it tomorrow. We should have some more info then.
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Hopefully that will take care of the fuel pickup issues.
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So here's where we are today.

The gas sending units are in and the problem of not picking up the last 3 gallons from the passenger tank is fixed.

The car is back running closed loop using the PLX WB as a WB/NB. He put a GM 02 in the passenger side. The late model PCM is in and the car has a base turn on it but idles well and is producing similar numbers to the previous setup which is no surprise to us at this point.

The car is pulling a lot of vacuum so we're fighting a restriction. Ed is thinking the TB or maybe MAF. He's going to do some more testing in the morning to try to rule out - or rule in - the 85mm MAF. We both really think it's the ported LS2 TB. I'm trying to get my hands on a 95mm drive by wire TB and if we need to a 100mm MAF. All this is really in anticipation of the vacuum issue getting worse when/if a new manifold comes out. If they don't produce I'll have a sheet metal made this winter with runners in th 8 inch range.

Even as it sits, drivability will be greatly improved and it was damn near perfect before. We'll see what Ed discovers tomorrow.
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Greater vacuum at WOT than before (as long as nothing else has changed besides the cam) is encouraging. That usually means the engine is sucking harder. More demand for airflow usually means more power.
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
Greater vacuum at WOT than before (as long as nothing else has changed besides the cam) is encouraging. That usually means the engine is sucking harder. More demand for airflow usually means more power.
Only the cam change would causse this now. It is the kind of problem you want to have. Ed's going to run it MAFless in the morning to see if that's the culprit. It start pulling vacuum hard at about 5400RPM. I've got a call into Tracy at REV about his 95mm DBW TB, That's the only one I know of. We can open up the L76 enough to accomodate that. It will be right up against the endge of the o-ring but a little RTV will take care of that.

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Think you are up against the intake manifold flow restriction. The 90mm TB should more than flow the intake. You are pretty much maxed out for the configuration. The few hp to be gained are going to be exponentially expensive and "iffy"
I had a similar 402 and got similar power, I found you just can't stuff much more air in there-

The new upcoming manifolds are looking for "magic" to some degree. The basic longer -shorter runners rules still apply and there is only so much you can fit under the hood of a C5.
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Originally Posted by See5
The 90mm TB should more than flow the intake.
I would have thought so and yet we are showing a restriction before the manifold but thanks for the advice.
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Kevin,
Can you tell us what was happening with the car before you switched PCMs.
I know the newer PCMs have more tables to adjust, but why ( maybe in the first 25 pages you have that already lol)

What was the car was doing on the bad side that you are trying to fix?

there's never anything wrong with at little a couple more ponies, but that does seem to be what you are looking for.

Im sure one day Ill need a new motor and im trying to learn what to do and what not to do and why
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Originally Posted by Phil'sC5vette
Kevin,
Can you tell us what was happening with the car before you switched PCMs.
I know the newer PCMs have more tables to adjust, but why ( maybe in the first 25 pages you have that already lol)

What was the car was doing on the bad side that you are trying to fix?

there's never anything wrong with at little a couple more ponies, but that does seem to be what you are looking for.

Im sure one day Ill need a new motor and im trying to learn what to do and what not to do and why
Hey Phil, There was nothing that necessitated a PCM swap or for that matter a cam/springs swap. I just felt that it could be incrementaly better. As I've said all along, this is a creative exercise and an ongoing process.
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Originally Posted by WKMCD
Hey Phil, There was nothing that necessitated a PCM swap or for that matter a cam/springs swap. I just felt that it could be incrementaly better. As I've said all along, this is a creative exercise and an ongoing process.

Sounds like those budget truck heads are doing pretty well.
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I hope you finish soon Kev because its holding my darton engine up
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