Greg Good

Brian, I'm not saying there wasn't a 48 horsepower increase on that man's car. I'm simply stating that it wasn't 100% the head swap. There was something else wrong that got corrected. You make a good product Brian, but it's not 48 rwhp better than AFR, who BTW puts out a good product as well.

Get real.

And yes Brian, the Pygmalion of cylnder heads, you are a whiner.

Greg Good

Too late to turn back. A professional wouldn't claim 48 rwhp that wasn't all his.

Greg Good

Brian, now you're being silly. There is no way for a rational person to believe your 225 heads are 48 rwhp better than AFR's 225 offering.

02NBMWS6

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if even Greg Good calls you silly, i'd agree.

Cobraeater

+2

I could believe the TFS 225 picking up as much as 20rwhp, but 48rwhp is ridiculous.

I remember that thread being posted about a year ago by lt1dave, and it was a head swap only but the before/after results were separated by like a year and everybody called bs in that thread (me included) and then it was deleted by somebody.

JL ws-6

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that guy either had a crap *** tune or something.. the tfs heads I do believe are a little better hten an afr, but the heads alone making 48 more rwhp... I'm throwing up the BS flag on that one.


He had some geometry problems, tune problems, something to cause that.


Next thing I'm gonna hear the tfs heads make more power then the bigger ET heads LOL......

Brian Tooley Racing

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It is very possible and probable for a smaller port volume head with smaller valves that flows as much or more air then a bigger port with bigger valves to make more power on a 6500 RPM street engine.

We were on the big port volume kick for a long time. At the point that these small port volume/small valve heads outflowed the big stuff we used to do, we realized that these could be a real winner. We have always known it is about airflow to the cylinder, and more airflow through a smaller port and valve yeilds WAY more velocity for a 6500 RPM street car. All of that makes the engine more drivable and easier to cam.

Like I have said before, the 15 degree stuff we used to do on 402's would make consistent 510-520 RWHP, it seems these TFS heads with smaller ports/valves with MORE airflow are making consistent 540-550 RWHP.

turbo'd stang

Brian, you must love getting beat down..lol.


On a side note, Sam Vincents car....WOW! 7.49 or was it a 46? That is with a Mustang though, we all know they suck.

Brian Tooley Racing

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Yeah, set the Street Outlaw record last weekend with nitrous, in a class dominated by turbo and supercharged combinations. That is the great thing about the Ford stuff, bring it all to the track on a level playing field and lets see who makes the power.

We have a new Victor Glidden program courtesy of S.A.M., and they set the class record in Hot Street with their new setup.

All the haters can keep hating, I will keep moving forward.

Greg Good

Yeah, and along those lines if you want to catch a really big largemouth bass Casey can get it on the hook for you and then you can reel it in..........then you can snap a pic of the fish and tell your buddies how good you are. LMAO

Do you take a wingman out to the bars with you to meet chicks as well?

Brian Tooley Racing

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Here are three examples that are making that power or close.

416 cu in, TFS 225 heads, 538 RWHP 500 RWTQ through an AUTO

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...82#post6662782

402 cu in, TFS 225 heads, 548 RWHP 499 RWTQ Z06 Corvette

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/667223-vengeance-racing-402-iron-block-tfs-heads-results-inside.html

416 cu in, L92 heads, 551 RWHP 507 RWTQ Z06 Corvette

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iv-internal-engine/675896-416-l92-ported-heads-full-story-plus-results.html

Enjoy!

F8TEL402

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Just looking around the different Threads and saw yours. I was wandering what heads and Cam you are sugesting to get the 520 range??
thanks for your help

Chicago Crew UnderBoss

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Great stuff Brian Thank you!

Greg Good

Lose some turbulence and get some high flow.

Study that Glidden/Ford port shape well that Casey at SAM did. You can learn a lot from it.




Brian, you're the one that insists on putting others products down with absurd claims. Who's the hater? Your days of moving forward off of Casey's sweat is coming to an end. They will have their CNC soon.

KCS

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Hahaha

Greg Good

I just hope that Casey didn't bring Brian's Glidden/Ford R&D program to a complete halt while finishing up the Mustang heads for Jud.

I fear that's the case though.

Greg Good

Brian, please do tell everyone that I can't port heads in your opinion.

I have nothing to hide. While you're at it, explain to everyone why your heads aren't on SixSpeeds.com's car, but ET's are.

turbo'd stang

That is my debate....TFS 225's or ET245's.

Greg Good

I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop Brian. You threatened me in PM, so follow through.

Brian Tooley Racing

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ET makes a great head, I have said many times that I think the ET's and TFS are the best heads going, and everyone knows it.

I think it boils down to RPM, cubic inch and power adder on your debate. The ET is a better nitrous head, due to the extra intake port volume.

The TFS head is a better blower/turbo head, due to the superior spark plug placement and exhaust port velocity, and smallish valves.

What kind of combo are you working on?