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Old 12-12-2007, 05:35 PM
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I thought that you might want to see what happens when a new Z06 breaks a valve spring..was surprised when the piston and head had as little damage as they did..but the valve gouged the cylinder wall and ruined the block..no repairs...replacement engine is going in...







Here is what caused all the damage..

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Wow, was this just a random accident?
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how much for the heads and stock connecting rods out of it?..lol
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so much for the all mighty z06...
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did you miss a shift?
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gotta love the dual springs!
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Bending beats hell out of breaking. I've seen valve heads pay multiple visits to every cylinder when they snap off at RPM's. I thought the 427 block had pressed-in sleeves versus cast-in-place. As long as it didn't mess anything else up, it should still be a candidate for a sleeve, IMHO.
At any rate, sure sorry to hear about your misfortune.
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Sounds like it is being repaired by the dealer. Block would be good for sleeving and the heads are repairable, however, the old parts will likely be destroyed unless someone knows someone.....
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Originally Posted by Busted Knuckles
Bending beats hell out of breaking. I've seen valve heads pay multiple visits to every cylinder when they snap off at RPM's. I thought the 427 block had pressed-in sleeves versus cast-in-place. As long as it didn't mess anything else up, it should still be a candidate for a sleeve, IMHO.
At any rate, sure sorry to hear about your misfortune.

Not my misfortune sir..it is just a car in the service department for warranty work..I thought you all would enjoy the photos...my engine has dual springs... the LS7 block is like any other LS series engine..no pressed in sleeves..the number one cylinder has a gouge in the cylinder wall that is not repairable..as I said in the first post GM will replace the engine..

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Originally Posted by Beast96Z
Sounds like it is being repaired by the dealer. Block would be good for sleeving and the heads are repairable, however, the old parts will likely be destroyed unless someone knows someone.....
The engine goes back to GM for analysis.
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Originally Posted by Tainted
so much for the all mighty z06...
The LS7 like any mass produced piece of machinery is made of metal parts..some parts have flaws and fail..that is the reasone that new cars have a warranty...drive by a rolls royce, lexus, bently, ect. dealer sometime...those service departments will be full of cars in for service work..nothing is bullit proof.. If man can built it ... it can break..
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slt200mph, there are a lot of misinformed folks out there - Corvette Fever, Corvette Museum, Corvette Racer, Super Chevy, etc. have articles that state "unique engine block with larger 104.8-mm (4.125-inch) bores and pressed-in cylinder liners". One calls 'em sleeves, but I take it they're referring to the same thing. Are the sleeves cast-in-place and liners installed later?
At any rate, I totally agree - anything mechanical is subject to failure at any time. I had a buddy that had an engine built with all premium parts and it snapped a rod on it's 3rd dyno pull with no spun bearings or other contributing factors that could be found. That's why I hate flying!!!
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Steve, I can be there Saturday Morning to pick up that piece of junk...
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The spring that broke and cause it- what was it-

i will upload a other spring failure and what it can do to a 60 mile ls2 engine-

u should see it-pure mayhem-
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It was just a spring failure ... customer stated it happened while driving down the road at 35-40 miles an hour.
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That's exactly how the last engine in my car was destroyed. Like stated heads were repairable but The piston and cylinder walls were torn up.
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Originally Posted by 02 WS6 TA
Steve, I can be there Saturday Morning to pick up that piece of junk...
I have been keeping a close eye on that junk myself....wish there was a way ......but it is destined to go back to GM to be analyzed...
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Originally Posted by Busted Knuckles
slt200mph, there are a lot of misinformed folks out there - Corvette Fever, Corvette Museum, Corvette Racer, Super Chevy, etc. have articles that state "unique engine block with larger 104.8-mm (4.125-inch) bores and pressed-in cylinder liners". One calls 'em sleeves, but I take it they're referring to the same thing. Are the sleeves cast-in-place and liners installed later?
At any rate, I totally agree - anything mechanical is subject to failure at any time. I had a buddy that had an engine built with all premium parts and it snapped a rod on it's 3rd dyno pull with no spun bearings or other contributing factors that could be found. That's why I hate flying!!!
Katech and other specialty shops are doing pressed in sleeves but GM is not one of them.
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I don't know about your dealership but when I was working at mine we had 1 guy that worked on corvettes no matter what the problem was from interior to motor work he did it. Well, to get to the point a customer came in and was complaining about a trans noise in his lt4 vette really nothing was wrong with the trans. It was a very loyal customer of the dealer and they replaced the trans and the old trans didn't go back to gm and the tech ended up with it and sold it on ebay. So, nothing made it back to gm for analysis.
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Theirs different grades of titanium, its still a steel alloy. You can have a steel with 10% titanium and call it titanium.


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