View Poll Results: LSX Aluminum Block Standard or Tall
Standard
105
70.95%
Tall Deck
43
29.05%
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Aluminum LSX Block Poll
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i say offer both. tall and short, keep the cost to under $3200, 6 bolts per cyl., billet caps, sleeves that positively lock into the block, thick deck, squirter provisions, raised cam option, dry sump option and main journal under sizing option. this should be the ultimate lsx bowtie race block
i say offer both. tall and short, keep the cost to under $3200, 6 bolts per cyl., billet caps, sleeves that positively lock into the block, thick deck, squirter provisions, raised cam option, dry sump option and main journal under sizing option. this should be the ultimate lsx bowtie race block
Not to thread hijack, but...
can anyone comment on the quality of machining on stock/new LS7 blocks?
How are the tolerences? Align bore and clean hone needed? Any different from the standard machine work done on an LS1/2/3/6?
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Thanks for all the suggestions. I have forwarded most of the comments on to the GM Performance Parts Team. I really don't have a lot of information on dates, prices and options. I believe they asked to get an idea of the market. That said these parts could be a year or 2 down the road.
Like the LSX block you cannot offer options to suit everyone. I feel though that the engineers need to build the capability into to blocks. A little extra time and effort will enable the blocks to modified/built to fit many applications.
More as it develops.
I want the LSX heads and Tall Deck LSX Block to be released first!
Robin
Like the LSX block you cannot offer options to suit everyone. I feel though that the engineers need to build the capability into to blocks. A little extra time and effort will enable the blocks to modified/built to fit many applications.
More as it develops.
I want the LSX heads and Tall Deck LSX Block to be released first!
Robin
My question is, will the blocks be made in the USA or will they be cast overseas like the LSX steel block? 
I never knew GMPP would fall for the overseas production just to make more money....
Greed is a bitch.
I never knew GMPP would fall for the overseas production just to make more money....
Greed is a bitch.
Gimme a break. GMPP has been good to us. And this is a global economy. If you want american made and designed the warhawk and c5r are available now, and I think that most of us are in here because we can afford neither.
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I guess you're voting for Obama too huh?
Chevy high performance blocks made in India.... I don't know about you, but my father/grand father would have laughed at the idea....
What we do is a hobby. It doesn't pay the light bill.... so do we REALLY need to save a few dollars and compromise the soul of Chevrolet?
The LSX block is plenty strudy in the bottom end. So much so that when the crankshaft flexes the block does not. It's interesting that there are people out there that make this type of assumption when they see wear or wiping on main bearings. We have tested many configurations of LSX blocks as well as crankshafts. Phil had a post "strongest LSX crankshaft" that I addressed several of our observations. In that post made several recomendations based on our experiance. Phil was suprised that some of the conditions I posted were the same as he was seeing in his engine. Remember the LSX block is a foundation for a high horsepower engine. Be aware that the block needs addtional madifications based on your final use of the block. It's impossible to make a block that fits everyones needs.
Most of the problems that we have seen have been from inexperience when building a high horsepower small blocks.
Read some of the posts on that tread. You have Joe from Six Speeds Inc as well as Erik K adding his opinions.
As far as the cracking I need to see pictures if you have them. I am not calling BS but I need proof. I agree in my opinion I would like to see a closed deck on any block that use in a high horsepower application. To justify these type of changes I need DATA. Not rumor or hearsay. Give me DATA. Pictures and all the details.
I'll post a link to that thread in a few minutes so I don't lose this post
Here is the post https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iv-internal-engine/984913-who-makes-strongest-lsx-crank.html
Thanks
Robin
Most of the problems that we have seen have been from inexperience when building a high horsepower small blocks.
Read some of the posts on that tread. You have Joe from Six Speeds Inc as well as Erik K adding his opinions.
As far as the cracking I need to see pictures if you have them. I am not calling BS but I need proof. I agree in my opinion I would like to see a closed deck on any block that use in a high horsepower application. To justify these type of changes I need DATA. Not rumor or hearsay. Give me DATA. Pictures and all the details.
I'll post a link to that thread in a few minutes so I don't lose this post
Here is the post https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iv-internal-engine/984913-who-makes-strongest-lsx-crank.html
Thanks
Robin
Robin,do you really believe this statement?
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Gee, Shawn, what kind of question is that? Why would you ask that. If I take the time to write a response you think that I don't believe what I wrote?
C'mon Shawn, why don't you tell us what your thinking, I (and probably everone else) would like to know.
Robin
C'mon Shawn, why don't you tell us what your thinking, I (and probably everone else) would like to know.
Robin
Thanks for all the suggestions. I have forwarded most of the comments on to the GM Performance Parts Team. I really don't have a lot of information on dates, prices and options. I believe they asked to get an idea of the market. That said these parts could be a year or 2 down the road.
Like the LSX block you cannot offer options to suit everyone. I feel though that the engineers need to build the capability into to blocks. A little extra time and effort will enable the blocks to modified/built to fit many applications.
More as it develops.
I want the LSX heads and Tall Deck LSX Block to be released first!
Robin
Like the LSX block you cannot offer options to suit everyone. I feel though that the engineers need to build the capability into to blocks. A little extra time and effort will enable the blocks to modified/built to fit many applications.
More as it develops.
I want the LSX heads and Tall Deck LSX Block to be released first!
Robin
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Robin
Last edited by JPH; Sep 23, 2008 at 10:23 PM.
Robin,i agree that parts need to be modified based on hp your looking to build.But to say that the LSX block is so sturdy in the bottom end that it doesnt flex and that its a crankshaft problem is just pure b.s.I have been in this game long enough to tell the difference between crankshaft flex and block flex.It reminds me of the old days of building high hp 400 sbc using stock blocks-lots of block flex.It's amazing that i can build a 2500 hp sbc using a Brodix aluminum block,off the shelf Lunati pro series crank and off the shelf Lunati billet rods-put over 200 passes on it with no bearing problems but i cant get 20 passes on an LSX block making 1800hp using the same components-can you explain why i need a center counterweight billet crank,aluminum rods and a bunch of custom stuff to do the same with the LSX block?
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What kind of bore do you think this aluminum LSX will be able to support?
Is there anyway you could use a beefy iron liner (something like a Darton MID) so we could have the option of 4.200" (This is something that can't be done on the Warhawk as far as I know)
P.S. Does GMPP ever plan on releasing a CNC machine lightened IRON LSX block?
Is there anyway you could use a beefy iron liner (something like a Darton MID) so we could have the option of 4.200" (This is something that can't be done on the Warhawk as far as I know)
P.S. Does GMPP ever plan on releasing a CNC machine lightened IRON LSX block?
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