Vector Motorsports ECM/TCM
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Vector Motorsports ECM/TCM
Until Silver LS4's post about the heat soak harness, I did not know this company existed. I have been kicking around the idea of a tuner but my skills with one would be very off. The pre programmed ECM may be the way I want to go. The ease of operation for me is key, I dont want to be tooling with the car every day to make it run right or possibly do somthing wrong to foul up the car. My question is does anybody have one of these and if so what gains or driveability issues did you see. And what are the pros vs. cons of this part, opinions welcome.
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There are 2 companies that offer canned tunes for our LS4 (that I know of anyway). My main problem with going this route is having to send in your PCM to have them program it. It means you lose the use of the car for however long it takes for shipment.
One of the concerns I had was every time I made a change or there was any kind of issue, I would have to send the PCM back to them for reprogramming, which would mean I could not drive the car.
Second thing was every car is slightly different, as was mentioned in other threads.
One of the concerns I had was every time I made a change or there was any kind of issue, I would have to send the PCM back to them for reprogramming, which would mean I could not drive the car.
Second thing was every car is slightly different, as was mentioned in other threads.
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I live about an hour away so I drove my car up ther and had Kurt tune it while I was there. The biggest thing I noticed is the feeling of like a turbo lag after the shifts is gone. I have always had great service up there, but I never really talked to Chris, I always end up talking to Kurt, who is the brains of the co. Kurt hired Chris to answer the phone and schedule... I have heard some bad things about Chris. Overall I am impressed with the tune and vector motorsports.
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Originally Posted by SILVER LS4
I live about an hour away so I drove my car up ther and had Kurt tune it while I was there. The biggest thing I noticed is the feeling of like a turbo lag after the shifts is gone. I have always had great service up there, but I never really talked to Chris, I always end up talking to Kurt, who is the brains of the co. Kurt hired Chris to answer the phone and schedule... I have heard some bad things about Chris. Overall I am impressed with the tune and vector motorsports.
NPD, I would look for another company to do the tune for you...there are better ones out there.
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Originally Posted by scalarrthu
NPD, I would look for another company to do the tune for you...there are better ones out there.
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I wasn't aware you had to send them your ECM, I thought you got a new one and could keep the stocker as a spare. Probably better to get the tuner for myself but I am very unsure of myself when it comes to doing this. What is the difficultly level of tuning my own car without any prior knoledge of doing so.
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well, you could just buy a new set from them, but it'll cost ya an additional $400 for the new cores... plus, you'll then have to get a Crank Position Relearn performed on it from your dealer, or from someone who has the tool to do it.
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yes, they do have that option listed on their site... I was just going by what he said in his reply post: "I thought you got a new one and could keep the stocker as a spare."
either way - keeing the old ones or not - you'll still have to get the Crank Position Relearn done on the new set... that's why they recommend that you send in your originals - since it wouldn't have to be done on those.
either way - keeing the old ones or not - you'll still have to get the Crank Position Relearn done on the new set... that's why they recommend that you send in your originals - since it wouldn't have to be done on those.
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Personally I'd rather run a Diablosport tune than a pre-canned tune from vector...both tunes are sub par because it's not custom...so take the better of two evils and get the diablosport so you can always revert back to stock at will.
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Im still between the 2, but after my wife got me a laptop today, that changed my mind and it was an easy choice, HP Tuners. Now I am just going to need some help from you guys.
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A dyno tune will always be better then any canned tune out there. The down side of a dyno tune or any canned tune is the fact that when the weather changes so does how your car reacts, and when you do additional mods then you need to retune. Now if you can tune via HPTuners then over time you can always adjust your tune, but it could take a while to get it compleatly dialed in your self. I don't consider the Diabalo as a full tuner because you can't change any tranny parameters. I've been in the GP world for 9 years and can tell you the 4t-65E HD tranny is sucky to say the least. And the amounts of Torque reduction in the trannys and the crazy long shift times are rediculous. It's GM's way of putting a band-aid on a broken leg. Once you can tune the tranny side of the house via a dyno tune, canned tune or HPTuners you will see much better results with your car. My vote will always be HPTuners, laptop and lots of time when it comes to tuning the GXP.
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Well, I dont have a laptop and I really dont plan on dragging the car (mabye once or twice to see what she does) I just want some more streetable power which can come from a tune, it dosen't have to be perfect all of the time as this car is my daily driver.
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Have someone tune it with HPT. This place did a mailorder tune on a 07' TB-SS for a guy i met at the track... it ran 14.7's @ 94 with this tune and it had intake and exhaust. I had scanned it for him and saw that it had 5 degrees timing @ wot total advance. The guy never tweaked the timing over a certain airflow point, and it happend to hit that amount of airflow and it killed all performance. So he got another stock computer since vector locks it, i tuned it in one night at the track and it went from 14.7's to 13.5 @ 103. I thought the guy was gonna give me his first born.
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Originally Posted by scalarrthu
Agreed. Kirk is a good guy, but Chris White has a bad reputation, which would keep me from ever using the company.
NPD, I would look for another company to do the tune for you...there are better ones out there.
NPD, I would look for another company to do the tune for you...there are better ones out there.
I'd appreciate it that unless people have FIRST HAND experiences with us they keep off the band wagon and thier mouth shut. It would eliminate alot of the drama the competitors leg humpers like to start.
Also, Silver LS4 I wasnt "hired" to answer phones LOL I'm Kirks partner the operations manager I also develop alot of the software and new products we use such as the DashHawk, our tuning software ect. Although I do occasionally answer the phones
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Originally Posted by BADDLS1SS
Have someone tune it with HPT. This place did a mailorder tune on a 07' TB-SS for a guy i met at the track... it ran 14.7's @ 94 with this tune and it had intake and exhaust. I had scanned it for him and saw that it had 5 degrees timing @ wot total advance. The guy never tweaked the timing over a certain airflow point, and it happend to hit that amount of airflow and it killed all performance. So he got another stock computer since vector locks it, i tuned it in one night at the track and it went from 14.7's to 13.5 @ 103. I thought the guy was gonna give me his first born.
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Originally Posted by GTPprix
Care to elaborate there? With the exception of a handful of trolls that got banned from every forum they were on because they acted like 12 year olds I'm sure most people you will ask will agree that I have a stellar reputation. You dont get this far in life doing things the trolls "claim" we do.
I'd appreciate it that unless people have FIRST HAND experiences with us they keep off the band wagon and thier mouth shut. It would eliminate alot of the drama the competitors leg humpers like to start.
Also, Silver LS4 I wasnt "hired" to answer phones LOL I'm Kirks partner the operations manager I also develop alot of the software and new products we use such as the DashHawk, our tuning software ect. Although I do occasionally answer the phones
I'd appreciate it that unless people have FIRST HAND experiences with us they keep off the band wagon and thier mouth shut. It would eliminate alot of the drama the competitors leg humpers like to start.
Also, Silver LS4 I wasnt "hired" to answer phones LOL I'm Kirks partner the operations manager I also develop alot of the software and new products we use such as the DashHawk, our tuning software ect. Although I do occasionally answer the phones