The great oil debate
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Def wouldn't pay $10 a qt unless it's worth like 25 hp to the wheels
Costco has 6 qt box for $31 = 5.16 qt
Just did a change on the Tahoe 81,000 miles
went 1 yr 2 months (Tow rig) - 5,500 miles and came out clean
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The easiest way to say anything, is no one oil will perform the same in different engines.
having someone say "MY oil looks clean after 5K", or "This oil is garbage it turned dark after 2K" is no merit of how well an oil is performing in your engine.
Any API current Rated oil should be more than adequate in today's engines. When you start to care about low wear numbers, extended drain intervals, max protection, it pays to do a Used Oil Analysis.
a UOA helps show how the oil is doing in the motor. It's going to show wear numbers, if you have coolant in the oil, or fuel too. Will show viscosity, flashpoint, etc.
Granted it's not going to tell you that you're going to have an engine failure, it can help you determine oil change intervals. Obviously if you're oil is being loaded up with silicon from an old air filter, or coolant from a leaky headgasket or Intake Gasket, you don't want run extended OCIs, until issues like that are fixed.
For Example I run my wife's 01 cavalier (2.2L OHV 3 speed auto, 120K) to 6,000 mile OCI with Mobil Clean 5000 10w30 (conventional Oil). Granted she doesn't beat the living hell out of the car, she is fairly hard on it. My UOAs showed the oil is doing it's job for her driving habits. My UOAS showed better wear numbers than someone else running Mobil 1 in the same 2.2 for a shorter OCI with less overall miles with similiar driving habits..
Royal purple is a decent oil, but not for the price anymore. You can get German Castrol at Autozone on sale typically 5 quarts with filter for $25.99 or around about. Use the rewards card and you save more..
btw 1badZ, Zmax is garbage. Nothing more than colored mineral oil. Just because Carrol(sp) Shelby endorses it doesn't make it good. Just like Lucas Oil Stabilizer, pure garbage.
All of these oils and what not have been covered in the past. I hope this doesn't turn into another 12 page bashathon with people who don't know squat trying to defend something.
Some people think Mobil 1 is the greatest because everyone uses it. It's called marketing and business. GM would probably use Castrol if they gave a lower Bid, but Exxon/Mobil is a huge company. Some even think just because nascar uses M1 it's great too. Hate to tell you those formulations Nascar boys use isn't the same as what you buy off the shelf.
But then again it all depends on application, and as I stated in the beginning, if you change your oil every 3K, you're fine with any API SM rated oil, unless you need synthetic because of high oil temps (turbo,etc)
Last edited by buffman; Jan 7, 2009 at 01:24 PM.
mods: I don't think he sells anything. that is why I linked that site
GO there if you wish to do reading.IF anything over there they are biased towards Amsoil, but the point of the forum is to help educate you on oils.


I did put some Royal Purple 75W-140 Gear Oil in the front diff of my Jeep Grand Cherokee over the weekend. It's still in one piece.
I have 174K on my engine. 130K of those miles were with conventional oil... big deal..

