rwhp numbers LE vs AI
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Ok I'll concede to that statement about you goofy third pedal guys... but in general you can screw up a launch and still trap high...and I've seen way too many folks with huge dyno numbers and low traps...I beat a 434ci C4 Corvette last year with a 466 rwhp dyno sheet, both in ET and MPH...That should not happen...
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Ok I'll concede to that statement about you goofy third pedal guys... but in general you can screw up a launch and still trap high...and I've seen way too many folks with huge dyno numbers and low traps...I beat a 434ci C4 Corvette last year with a 466 rwhp dyno sheet, both in ET and MPH...That should not happen...
--Alan
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And I'm still at 3625 lbs or something like that...Hate to think what would happen with a little weight reduction...Hell I lost 35 lbs since my divorce...mmmmmm..... And I think Ai carries a similar cam...That would be a good choice..
--Alan
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In the end there's just too much to differ. I mean look at our engines, some are factory freaks and some are run of the mill. I'm not sure how much of the motor is assembly line built, but like the new Nissan GTRs, from car to car that Top Gear tested there was about 35hp difference between the two. I wouldn't even believe numbers until there were at least 5 stock vehicles dynoed and track driven between each. Mind you, that'll never ever happen, so it's pretty much just an estimate :\
hah That's sig worthy!! Fricken hilarious dude
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Same car, same mods, same tuner. LE setup had a ported intake manifold and the Ai setup has a stock unported intake manifold. My LE2 setup basically fell apart after 3000 miles so I made the switch and haven't looked back. Not to mention there is a very long lost of problems and false advertising I got with the LE2 heads but I'll save that for a different thread. There's a lot more to heads than flow #'s or dyno charts. IMO the heads from both parties aren't even comparable to each other in quality/machinework/results.
LE2 setup
Ai 200cc setup. (miss was from a lose rotor in the opti)
LE2 time slip (right lane)
Ai timeslip (right lane)
LE2 setup
Ai 200cc setup. (miss was from a lose rotor in the opti)
LE2 time slip (right lane)
Ai timeslip (right lane)
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Both of these companies make some real good stuff. I just think that the AI advertising is a leeeeeeetle bit misleading. You go to their website and what do you see? You see a race car that is throughly tweaked and prepped running some incredible times. Then there's the text on the same page, proclaiming that , that very car is running the same stuff that you too can buy!!!! When talking strictly about N/A numbers, i've seen lots and lots of AI cars running 12's, lots running 11's, a handful in the 10's, and 1 in the 9's. I'm not sure if there are any LE cars running N/A in the nines, but I would guess that the overall spread of LE cars are very similar, a lot of them in the 12's/11's and a handful in the 10's.
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I just think that the AI advertising is a leeeeeeetle bit misleading. You go to their website and what do you see? You see a race car that is throughly tweaked and prepped running some incredible times. Then there's the text on the same page, proclaiming that , that very car is running the same stuff that you too can buy!!!!
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Just like allways the bad thing about this and every forum someone has to bash everything said. if you dont like the thread why even bother posting in it that you dont like it or its stupid, that just maked it take longer to look at whats being said. We all know that there are many variables to everything the guy just wnted to know in general what you have and what you made. So now that everyone hates me thank ya verry much, sorry couldnt hold it in anymore
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It's exactly like opening up a bodybuilding magazine like FLEX (or any other), and seeing a picture of Dexter Jackson (current Mr Olympia) holding up a can of Cell-Tech protein powder.
1. Yes, Dexter does actually ingest Cell-Tech protein.
2. No, you will not ever be as big as him.
BTW, your dyno on the LE stuff looks like you had an opti issue at high rpms, like 5800+rpm, the way it was scattering.
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Both of these companies make some real good stuff. I just think that the AI advertising is a leeeeeeetle bit misleading. You go to their website and what do you see? You see a race car that is throughly tweaked and prepped running some incredible times. Then there's the text on the same page, proclaiming that , that very car is running the same stuff that you too can buy!!!! When talking strictly about N/A numbers, i've seen lots and lots of AI cars running 12's, lots running 11's, a handful in the 10's, and 1 in the 9's. I'm not sure if there are any LE cars running N/A in the nines, but I would guess that the overall spread of LE cars are very similar, a lot of them in the 12's/11's and a handful in the 10's.
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Same car, same mods, same tuner. LE setup had a ported intake manifold and the Ai setup has a stock unported intake manifold. My LE2 setup basically fell apart after 3000 miles so I made the switch and haven't looked back. Not to mention there is a very long lost of problems and false advertising I got with the LE2 heads but I'll save that for a different thread. There's a lot more to heads than flow #'s or dyno charts. IMO the heads from both parties aren't even comparable to each other in quality/machinework/results.
LE2 setup
Ai 200cc setup. (miss was from a lose rotor in the opti)
LE2 time slip (right lane)
Ai timeslip (right lane)
LE2 setup
Ai 200cc setup. (miss was from a lose rotor in the opti)
LE2 time slip (right lane)
Ai timeslip (right lane)
Not at all saying AIs is a bad set up but those slips are pretty close. So both rule!
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once again, both setups will make the power YOU decide how to put the power to the ground.
speed_demon youre just like any other Ai troll. you guys almost give Ai a bad name. they make good products, as does LE, but you come on here and spread bullshit.
my car made 390 rwhp with a big stall auto, stock heads with a valve job, and a cam that was "too big" for the engine. I didnt have anything from either Ai or LE.
speed_demon youre just like any other Ai troll. you guys almost give Ai a bad name. they make good products, as does LE, but you come on here and spread bullshit.
my car made 390 rwhp with a big stall auto, stock heads with a valve job, and a cam that was "too big" for the engine. I didnt have anything from either Ai or LE.
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once again, both setups will make the power YOU decide how to put the power to the ground.
speed_demon youre just like any other Ai troll. you guys almost give Ai a bad name. they make good products, as does LE, but you come on here and spread bullshit.
my car made 390 rwhp with a big stall auto, stock heads with a valve job, and a cam that was "too big" for the engine. I didnt have anything from either Ai or LE.
speed_demon youre just like any other Ai troll. you guys almost give Ai a bad name. they make good products, as does LE, but you come on here and spread bullshit.
my car made 390 rwhp with a big stall auto, stock heads with a valve job, and a cam that was "too big" for the engine. I didnt have anything from either Ai or LE.