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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 05:33 PM
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what all would I need to turn 7500-8000 rpm safely. I am going to have 6" rods and a forged crank either 3.48" or 3.75" stroke. so what all is needed? shaftmounts, solid roller setup, high volume or just high pressure pump? Can the stock ECM keep up at that speed?
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 05:34 PM
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LS1 pcm conversion
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 05:36 PM
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LS1 pcm conversion
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I already have OBDII, is that what you mean by LS1 pcm?
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 05:38 PM
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No, you need the LS1 PCM conversion. EFI 24x, or FAST.

A lightweight rotating assembly will help with the added revs.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 05:45 PM
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what is involved in the LS1 pcm swap. how many rpms can the stock OBDII platform handle?
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MadMike 97 Z28
what is involved in the LS1 pcm swap. how many rpms can the stock OBDII platform handle?
stock ecu can only rev to 7k
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 05:52 PM
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The LT1 OBD2 goes to somewhere around 71-7200, is a hardware issue, the pcm can not take any more.

Going to want a HP pump NOT HV, HV will cause problems.

Thing is a 7500rpm solid roller 383 LT1 with ported LT1 castings has gone 9s NA in a 3400lbs car, put a set of properly ported Trickflows and a properly selected single plane on the same engine/car with a smaller cam shift it at 7200 and it goes mid 9s.

Point being, what is your performance goal and budget? At those rpms you are going to spend more on valvetrain than most guys spend on whole street engines.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
The LT1 OBD2 goes to somewhere around 71-7200, is a hardware issue, the pcm can not take any more.

Going to want a HP pump NOT HV, HV will cause problems.

Thing is a 7500rpm solid roller 383 LT1 with ported LT1 castings has gone 9s NA in a 3400lbs car, put a set of properly ported Trickflows and a properly selected single plane on the same engine/car with a smaller cam shift it at 7200 and it goes mid 9s.

Point being, what is your performance goal and budget? At those rpms you are going to spend more on valvetrain than most guys spend on whole street engines.
I have some HEAVILY PORTED AFR's and intake to match. mid 400's to the wheels would be nice. The car is gonna be used for a weekend toy. I want to run some HPDE events so this isn't just a streetracing/drag car. I need it to withstand running whatever RPM peak power is at for long periods of time not just a quick burst. I would like a high RPM 355 but I will build a 383 if thats whats needed to bring the powerband down a few RPMs.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 06:11 PM
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I heard the stock opti is good up to somewhere around 9000-10,000 RPMs?
Not exactly sure.
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mid 400s is too low a goal for those rpms.
Good news is that means you should be able to hit that goal with the stock pcm.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 07:28 PM
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what kind of power do you think is attainable?
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 07:28 PM
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I have ported LT4s with a CC306 and make 400 by about 5800rpms that is a VERY doable goal on the stock pcm, I did do a OBD1 swap though, it was a 97 OBD2
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 07:51 PM
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I assume you already have a cam in mind? If not, maybe shoot LE or AI an e-mail for a custom solid roller cam for this setup. Any idea what these heavily ported AFR's flow?
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http://advancedinduction.com/Abare.html

About halfway down there are some ported stock heads dyno graphs. Again, that is ported stock heads.

I don't put the faith in AFRs that most do, nor do I believe "heavily ported" has to be a good thing. I draw a distinction between the best bench racing parts and the best actual racing parts.
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www.eficonnection.com

Ls1 pcm can go way higher than the Lt1. there is a full thread about the conversion that Mike at above company has helped to create.
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Originally Posted by amstech
I heard the stock opti is good up to somewhere around 9000-10,000 RPMs?
Not exactly sure.
I hope behind this statement lies oodles of sarcasm.
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
I assume you already have a cam in mind? If not, maybe shoot LE or AI an e-mail for a custom solid roller cam for this setup. Any idea what these heavily ported AFR's flow?
Yes I will be purchasing a custom ground solid roller after the rest of my setup is determined. I don't have any flow numbers but here are the specs.

-AFR's hand ported to 212cc
-62cc chambers
-2.06" intake valves
-1.60" exhaust valves
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MadMike 97 Z28
what all would I need to turn 7500-8000 rpm safely. I am going to have 6" rods and a forged crank either 3.48" or 3.75" stroke. so what all is needed? shaftmounts, solid roller setup, high volume or just high pressure pump? Can the stock ECM keep up at that speed?
You also need a really good machinist that plays plenty of attention to detail. For long periods of high rpm use want a high capacity pan too. Light weight rotating parts will help a lot.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 08:19 PM
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I may have missed something but if you went with the Fast XFI Why would you want to do a LS1 pcm conversion the fast would take control of the engine functions.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by GIZMO
You also need a really good machinist that plays plenty of attention to detail. For long periods of high rpm use want a high capacity pan too. Light weight rotating parts will help a lot.
you have any suggestions on local machine shops? I live in Greenville. Im only an hour away from you.
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