GM race shop block
12-04-2010, 09:15 PM
#221
Darts excuse was that developing tooling would be too expensive. In this case, the tooling exists already but they don't feel the market is big enough for one.
I for one know that I would get a race block eventually if one were made, but I am no longer in the financial situation to be able to commit to a "when".
12-05-2010, 09:19 AM
#222
I know that, but ANY attention to the big-cube LT1 project is good attention. GM has the tooling done, Dart has the foundry to cast them and the logistics to deliver them through their dealers. Seems like a good match to me.
11-14-2011, 10:33 AM
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11-14-2011, 03:32 PM
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11-14-2011, 05:34 PM
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I usually dont dig up dirt but was hopin sdpc didnt drop the ball & dart wont drop 350k for tooling because they think nobody will buy one Such a Shame GM prolly wont sell the tooling because they dont want Antique LTX cars stompin their new LS powered cars lol So I guess find an ultra rare GM block if youve got 4 to 6k Hell a 400 sbc aint popular as it used to be but im still tryin to find a 72 RS Camaro to put that in lol Most guys I know wont switch to an LSx motor either If they build it they will sell like hot cakes 350000 / 2000 = 175 blocks the rest is gravy lol Id prepay 2k after my paints done in a ****** heartbeat
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09-27-2012, 08:21 PM
#233
Still waiting....
Funny though, out of all the GM big bore LTX blocks that exist I've never heard or seen them in action. Kind of like the fabled Dominion/arao heads (yes, I went there!)
Funny though, out of all the GM big bore LTX blocks that exist I've never heard or seen them in action. Kind of like the fabled Dominion/arao heads (yes, I went there!)
Last edited by Rob94hawk; 09-27-2012 at 08:31 PM.
09-28-2012, 07:37 AM
#237
But we'll never know now cause the timing was awful and no one had the business sense to do it BEFORE the recession.
09-28-2012, 07:55 AM
#239
A BIG issue here is those who claim they would buy the Dart want it to be the same price as the SHP gen 1 block. From a business standpoint though the LT market is a tiny fraction the size and the R&D/tooling/marketing cost would have to be paid by a tiny fraction the number of sales.
Granted getting ahold of the GM protoype molds would reduce much of those costs but not eliminate. So it would still be wildly unrealistic to expect the price to be near the SHP block.
As I have said before though even though a lot of folks are saying they would buy one I really doubt they would once they started looking at the complete cost of an engine. Look how often guys choose heads on price, or how often guys build cast crank strokers and how many can't even make the distributor work because they are just incompetent.
If the market really was there someone would have taken Jeff Green up on his offer to do more Donovan conversions like his or figured it out themselves. Yes this cost a lot more than $2000 but if the market was there for 400 $2000 big inch LT1s there would be a handful of those guys willing to pay more for an aluminum block version.
Granted getting ahold of the GM protoype molds would reduce much of those costs but not eliminate. So it would still be wildly unrealistic to expect the price to be near the SHP block.
As I have said before though even though a lot of folks are saying they would buy one I really doubt they would once they started looking at the complete cost of an engine. Look how often guys choose heads on price, or how often guys build cast crank strokers and how many can't even make the distributor work because they are just incompetent.
If the market really was there someone would have taken Jeff Green up on his offer to do more Donovan conversions like his or figured it out themselves. Yes this cost a lot more than $2000 but if the market was there for 400 $2000 big inch LT1s there would be a handful of those guys willing to pay more for an aluminum block version.
