Some pics of my intake set up
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*OH **** BENCH RACING*
Dude, there's been some bright people, doing some impressive things with LT1s for a long time. Tom Cowle did 11.48 with bolt ons and the factory manifold, and did a SLOWER 11.50 with a carb setup IIRC. You're gonna do 5-7 tenths better with a HR cam? And then pickup 13-15 tenths MORE on a 200 shot? Remember you're on a FACTORY bottom end, not a blueprinted "stock" setup that would be worth 20+hp alone. Single plane at that rpm and power level isn't worth **** on NA 350, but will help you out on the bottle. The cam is wrong for what you're trying to do, it'll peak at 6000-6200. The LSA is too wide to make power NA, and there's not enough duration to make the power you're looking for on the bottle (stock heads!)
Dude, there's been some bright people, doing some impressive things with LT1s for a long time. Tom Cowle did 11.48 with bolt ons and the factory manifold, and did a SLOWER 11.50 with a carb setup IIRC. You're gonna do 5-7 tenths better with a HR cam? And then pickup 13-15 tenths MORE on a 200 shot? Remember you're on a FACTORY bottom end, not a blueprinted "stock" setup that would be worth 20+hp alone. Single plane at that rpm and power level isn't worth **** on NA 350, but will help you out on the bottle. The cam is wrong for what you're trying to do, it'll peak at 6000-6200. The LSA is too wide to make power NA, and there's not enough duration to make the power you're looking for on the bottle (stock heads!)
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you have some funny bench racing there slick...but you fail at it bad..lol i know all the specs on toms car..i know tom left power on the table ive talked to tom a dozen times in pm's,..i think its really funny how you say a car with larger cam,race gas,more compression,better oil control,better intake,higher stall and is 200-250#s lighter wont run .5-.7 faster then tom..hahaha
i love how yall are stuck on the heads..**** is funny..i call them stock heads but ive already said i have to do some porting to them in here..but yall are so caught up in the words STOCK HEADS that yall keep on looking past it..haha
as for the cam being all wrong trust me it will work fine..part number is ch7..go ahead and call doug herbert and see what they say..heres the specs again.
RPM Range: 2700-6700Advertised Duration: 278/286Duration @ .050: 242/248Lift: .567/.585Lobe Center: 112c
oh the cam just came out a pump gas 350 that pulled to 7k..
i love how yall are stuck on the heads..**** is funny..i call them stock heads but ive already said i have to do some porting to them in here..but yall are so caught up in the words STOCK HEADS that yall keep on looking past it..haha
as for the cam being all wrong trust me it will work fine..part number is ch7..go ahead and call doug herbert and see what they say..heres the specs again.
RPM Range: 2700-6700Advertised Duration: 278/286Duration @ .050: 242/248Lift: .567/.585Lobe Center: 112c
oh the cam just came out a pump gas 350 that pulled to 7k..
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personally i could care less what someone does. all of its playing unless your getting paid for it, and most of us dont...
also i dont think a 350 lt1 on a 200hp shot will go in the 5's with stock heads or mildly ported stockers, stock bottom end.. 5's are pretty damned fast, i dont care who you are..
i built an s-10 for a customer years ago, 12:1,383, dart iron heads,850dbl pumper,4500 stall, tubbed, cage , yada, yada.. he was running 6.80s.. theres a huge a$$ difference in 6's and 5's..
also i dont think a 350 lt1 on a 200hp shot will go in the 5's with stock heads or mildly ported stockers, stock bottom end.. 5's are pretty damned fast, i dont care who you are..
i built an s-10 for a customer years ago, 12:1,383, dart iron heads,850dbl pumper,4500 stall, tubbed, cage , yada, yada.. he was running 6.80s.. theres a huge a$$ difference in 6's and 5's..
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I don't understand how you can doubt someone running 5's if he's using a quality ebay valve spring kit on a 7000+ rpm motor.
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hahaha you high lighted something...i said reg non ported heads and the very next line not even 4 words into it i say i have to port match them for the intake right?
So right there tells you there not going to reg stock heads..ive also said nothing about doing a valve job to them or polishing the combustion chambers..
Remember valve job an polishing aint porting..lol so you see why i still call them stock heads now right? there not getting a full port but are getting some work an to me a port match aint porting really thats just cleaning a casting..
ive also said stock short block with 152k..dont mean i aint going to go threw it and put fresh **** in it...the stock parts will still have 152k worth of miles on them but the bearings and rings wont an she will have arp rod bolts and be internaly balanced..lol
it never pays to assume stuff.because you only make yourself look like the first 3 letters of what you did.
as for 5s in the 8th...the stock short block n2o record is 5.99/9.44..hes 3100#s..im using a lil more cam and will have about 30 more hp in juice and be 2900#s lighter
now its been fun but i got to get to work.
So right there tells you there not going to reg stock heads..ive also said nothing about doing a valve job to them or polishing the combustion chambers..
Remember valve job an polishing aint porting..lol so you see why i still call them stock heads now right? there not getting a full port but are getting some work an to me a port match aint porting really thats just cleaning a casting..
ive also said stock short block with 152k..dont mean i aint going to go threw it and put fresh **** in it...the stock parts will still have 152k worth of miles on them but the bearings and rings wont an she will have arp rod bolts and be internaly balanced..lol
it never pays to assume stuff.because you only make yourself look like the first 3 letters of what you did.
as for 5s in the 8th...the stock short block n2o record is 5.99/9.44..hes 3100#s..im using a lil more cam and will have about 30 more hp in juice and be 2900#s lighter
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now its been fun but i got to get to work.
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I don't understand how you can doubt someone running 5's if he's using a quality ebay valve spring kit on a 7000+ rpm motor.
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but wait that cant be legit right..there not a name brand so it cant be true..remember ive said it before..alot of what you pay for comes from outside maker then gets a diff companys name slapped on it and marked up 200% morrel lifters are some...haha again its been fun.
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do you know thats what i have..do you work for that company and have a invoice with my name on it??? bet not..i said i would try them..**** i know a spring with retainer on speedway motors site that is for .600 lift cost 69$ for a set..bet you would **** yourself if you new how many circle track engines there in running 5800-7200 rpms lap after lap..
but wait that cant be legit right..there not a name brand so it cant be true..remember ive said it before..alot of what you pay for comes from outside maker then gets a diff companys name slapped on it and marked up 200% morrel lifters are some...haha again its been fun.
but wait that cant be legit right..there not a name brand so it cant be true..remember ive said it before..alot of what you pay for comes from outside maker then gets a diff companys name slapped on it and marked up 200% morrel lifters are some...haha again its been fun.
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hahaha you high lighted something...i said reg non ported heads and the very next line not even 4 words into it i say i have to port match them for the intake right?
So right there tells you there not going to reg stock heads..ive also said nothing about doing a valve job to them or polishing the combustion chambers..
Remember valve job an polishing aint porting..lol so you see why i still call them stock heads now right? there not getting a full port but are getting some work an to me a port match aint porting really thats just cleaning a casting..
ive also said stock short block with 152k..dont mean i aint going to go threw it and put fresh **** in it...the stock parts will still have 152k worth of miles on them but the bearings and rings wont an she will have arp rod bolts and be internaly balanced..lol
it never pays to assume stuff.because you only make yourself look like the first 3 letters of what you did.
as for 5s in the 8th...the stock short block n2o record is 5.99/9.44..hes 3100#s..im using a lil more cam and will have about 30 more hp in juice and be 2900#s lighter
now its been fun but i got to get to work.
So right there tells you there not going to reg stock heads..ive also said nothing about doing a valve job to them or polishing the combustion chambers..
Remember valve job an polishing aint porting..lol so you see why i still call them stock heads now right? there not getting a full port but are getting some work an to me a port match aint porting really thats just cleaning a casting..
ive also said stock short block with 152k..dont mean i aint going to go threw it and put fresh **** in it...the stock parts will still have 152k worth of miles on them but the bearings and rings wont an she will have arp rod bolts and be internaly balanced..lol
it never pays to assume stuff.because you only make yourself look like the first 3 letters of what you did.
as for 5s in the 8th...the stock short block n2o record is 5.99/9.44..hes 3100#s..im using a lil more cam and will have about 30 more hp in juice and be 2900#s lighter
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now its been fun but i got to get to work.
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but you see people say all the time i have stock heads when running after market springs,guide plates,retainers,seals an so forth in them..but there stock..
Its like alot of porters doing stage 1,2 or 3 heads now a days an calling them ported where stage 1 is just a damn valve job an thats it,stage 2 is a valve job and cleaned up casting with a gasket match..lol
An yes i know what alot of companys do and how alot of them out source ****...my point with saying morrel lifters was that alot dont know you cant by them from morrel them selfs you have to get them from herbert,lunati an others but they are sold with not the morrel name on them but others..
its like trick flow and summit..same **** just not paying for the name..theres a ton of **** in the after market world like that but alot dont think so..alot go oh that has to be junk because thats not name brand an it cost less...when the **** is the exact same just put in a different box during packaging.
As to you wicked..you can go ahead and get a sponcer or try..ill pass on that i aint class racing
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i can link that thread in here if you want..there using stock cam,oil restricters in the valley to stop cam windage,stock pan,ls7 lifters
,roller rockers an are running a f.a.s.t deal with no accessories also..
other then that i believe there around 10.8-1 comp..there using a impala gasket.
an i think the car is 3100#s..i cant remember if there on race gas or 93 though..more then likely race.
I don't want in this argument, but I thought that I would at least straighten this part out!