LT1's are better than LS1's
03-01-2011, 10:09 PM
#61
the injectors are actually the same #, just flowed at different rates
the LS1 driveshaft is a hollow aluminum tube with a tube of cardboard on the inside, hardly an improvement
didn't know there was any difference between the LS and LT 4L60e, thought they were geared the same.
the LS1 driveshaft is a hollow aluminum tube with a tube of cardboard on the inside, hardly an improvement
didn't know there was any difference between the LS and LT 4L60e, thought they were geared the same.
The 3" aluminum LS1 drive shaft is a treat compared to our shitty 2.5" steel shafts. Most guys who do a gear swap try to get their hands on an LS1 shaft to curb the added vibration - I know I've got my eye out for one!
Not sure which year GM switched to the 5-pinion planetary gear sets (4L65E), but I know that later model (if not all) LS1 4L60E's had a much stronger bell housing - unlike ours (and older trannies), these LS1 specific bell housings go much further down connecting more bolts to the back of the block, giving it a lot more strength (whereas our bell housings basically stop at the sides - more or less bolting to the back of our blocks in half a circle, leaving nothing on the bottom half except a gaping opening.
EDIT: forgot to mention I think its actually a detachable bellhousing!
03-01-2011, 10:36 PM
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03-01-2011, 10:59 PM
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ls1 cars look like a cheap luxury car from the front. Lucky for them most people only see their tail lights... I would at least change the hood and do something with that grill!
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03-02-2011, 01:12 AM
#66
The 3" aluminum LS1 drive shaft is a treat compared to our shitty 2.5" steel shafts. Most guys who do a gear swap try to get their hands on an LS1 shaft to curb the added vibration - I know I've got my eye out for one!
Not sure which year GM switched to the 5-pinion planetary gear sets (4L65E), but I know that later model (if not all) LS1 4L60E's had a much stronger bell housing - unlike ours (and older trannies), these LS1 specific bell housings go much further down connecting more bolts to the back of the block, giving it a lot more strength (whereas our bell housings basically stop at the sides - more or less bolting to the back of our blocks in half a circle, leaving nothing on the bottom half except a gaping opening.
EDIT: forgot to mention I think its actually a detachable bellhousing!
Not sure which year GM switched to the 5-pinion planetary gear sets (4L65E), but I know that later model (if not all) LS1 4L60E's had a much stronger bell housing - unlike ours (and older trannies), these LS1 specific bell housings go much further down connecting more bolts to the back of the block, giving it a lot more strength (whereas our bell housings basically stop at the sides - more or less bolting to the back of our blocks in half a circle, leaving nothing on the bottom half except a gaping opening.
EDIT: forgot to mention I think its actually a detachable bellhousing!
as for the trans didn't know there was any internal differences, just thought it was a different bellhousing.
03-02-2011, 07:59 AM
#67
If it has the 5-pinion gear sets then its the 4L65E - I'm not even sure if those 4L65's ever made it into the last years of the F-body (they may have come around for the GTO's or later model Vettes). But seeing a LS version 4L60E with that bellhousing that comes all the way around is something else. Makes you wonder why the hell they didn't re-design trans like that ages ago...
03-02-2011, 08:35 AM
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I wonder how many of these type threads are started in the LS1 forum. 
I guess that's what happens when you make such a retarded generalized statement. Go show him how your LT1 is better than a LS1. I mean that is what you said, right?
I guess that's what happens when you make such a retarded generalized statement. Go show him how your LT1 is better than a LS1. I mean that is what you said, right?
03-02-2011, 01:39 PM
#72
put stock heads back on your car and compare apples to apples... Honestly I would expect a well built heads cam lt1 to be as fast or slightly faster than a cam only ls1... just sayin. Not tryin to start an argument or bash at all... both are dated technology and can go fast in the right hands.
03-02-2011, 05:45 PM
#75
LT1 cars will one day be seen as rare, and will be highly sought after. were the LSx cars will not. every one and their brother has one. and GM will build on that motor platform for no telling how much longer. dont get me wrong im a fan of the LSx motors and i know what they can do. but its so much more fun being the under dog.
03-02-2011, 05:50 PM
#76
LT1 cars will one day be seen as rare, and will be highly sought after. were the LSx cars will not. every one and their brother has one. and GM will build on that motor platform for no telling how much longer. dont get me wrong im a fan of the LSx motors and i know what they can do. but its so much more fun being the under dog.
They already are rare. They will become more of a rarity as they all start dying off.
Mark my words leghumpers. LT1s will never be collected or similar. They will die old and alone.
03-02-2011, 06:01 PM
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03-02-2011, 09:15 PM
#80
One thing you have all forgotten about is one un debatable fact....
THE LT1 PAVED THE WAY FOR THE LS1 lol
there is no way around it Gm tried and tried to find ways to make the Original SBC better from the factory but in the end with the LT1 it showed them what to do and what not to do. so there the LT1 is the LS1's daddy. No way around it!!! You can pick friends but family is forever. No if ands or Butts about it lol.
I would own either one. Which ever one is cheaper lol.
THE LT1 PAVED THE WAY FOR THE LS1 lol
there is no way around it Gm tried and tried to find ways to make the Original SBC better from the factory but in the end with the LT1 it showed them what to do and what not to do. so there the LT1 is the LS1's daddy. No way around it!!! You can pick friends but family is forever. No if ands or Butts about it lol.
I would own either one. Which ever one is cheaper lol.