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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 04:43 PM
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I have a 1996 Trans Am WS6. It is mostly stock, the only upgrades are 3.73 gears, a K&N filter, NGK plugs, and a Magnaflow exhaust (swapping it for a GMMG cat back that came in the mail today). I recently bought a Hypertech programmer and BBK 58mm TB to get a little extra power. The BBK TB came in the mail today, and on the left side where the sensor bolts into it, there is a bolt snapped in the hole, so I have to send it back in exchange for a new one...

BUT here is my question. Since this is mainly a show car and a driver rather than a race car, and I don't plan on doing any radical upgrades, would there be any benefits to a BBK 58mm over a ported stock TB? The reason I ask is because I also purchased a nice TB plate with a TA bird on it, and the BBK does not have bolt holes on the top for this plate. Should I exchange the BBK for a new one, or just return it and buy a ported stock TB so I can still have the nice plate? If ported stock is the way to go, where can I buy one already done and ready to bolt in?
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 05:36 PM
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Shaner ported my TB. came out nice
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 06:44 PM
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58mm is way too big for what you have done to the car so far...return it, get the stocker ported, and stick some money in your pocket
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 08:33 PM
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Hell for what you have a plain non ported stocker would do fine....
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 09:10 PM
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You're not going to benefit from a larger or ported TB with those mods.
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 09:17 PM
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Alright thanks for the info guys. Looks like I will just be returning it.
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 10:18 AM
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Reiterating the above, a stock unmolested TB is plenty.
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 07:42 PM
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not porting your intake to match will also make purchasing a larger throttle body worthless.
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My "ws-6 plate" bolted onto my BBK just fine...
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 06:56 PM
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The stock throttle body can support 400 hp, a 52mm can support 475, and a 58mm/monoblade much more. For a bolton car or even a mildly cammed car a simply air foil will suffice.
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 08:23 PM
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Might want to throw that Hypertech Programmer in the garbage while you're at it..
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 09:00 PM
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Ehh they arent that bad (though I would never buy one. I got mine free). Im in the 12s with minor bolt ons and a hypertech...
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 11:17 PM
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On a stock motor id go with a 52mm ported stocker off ebay. I felt a difference on my basically stock LT1. On my H/C build I ran an AS&M 58MM. Worked fine and was definitely snappier
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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 12:02 AM
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you've come to the right place op, next time check in before you buy
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 12:09 PM
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Alright thanks for the replies everyone. I ended up returning the 58mm BBK and I bought a used 52mm ported stocker, machined by the same guy who does the TB plates for ws6store... It was also powder coated black which is a plus.

I have to ask though, what is wrong with the Hypertech programmers? Now I am thinking about returning that and getting something else, any recommendations?

And while I'm at it, I read a magazine article somewhere in the past couple years that explained the ratio for rocker arms, and a 1.65 for example would increase lift over a 1.5... I was thinking about replacing the stock rocker arms with roller rockers... Would that show any increase in power? If so, what brand and ratio would be recommended?

I am really just trying to maximize the performance on my TA without getting into the motor or anything. I would love to do a H/C combo but not right now lol. Are there any other upgrades you would recommend?

Thanks everyone
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 12:39 PM
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Sounds like you want more than show car/driver mods now....hehehe
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Uwilllosetomy93lt1
Sounds like you want more than show car/driver mods now....hehehe
Lol ummean I drive the car a lot, and I take it to many shows throughout the summer and I keep it very clean. I have never taken it to the drag strip... MAYBE this year I will, just to see what it can do. I don't need to spend the money on headers, and the motor only has 40k on it so there's no need to take out the motor and build a stroker or anything. It has the stock 10 bolt rear with 3.73 gears, and I have no intentions of installing a 12 bolt or 9" rear... I bought a TA preformance rear end girdle for a little extra strength and that will be the extent of rearend strengthening mods lol. The clutch and flywheel are also stock, I will not be swapping them until they need to be, which shouldn't be for a while.

I basically just want to do simple bolt ons to make driving a bit more fun... not that it isn't fun already... but you can never have enough power right?

So I did the ca back which sounds amazing, I did the K&N filter, a stock poted TB, a programmer... What else is there without going overboard?
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 03:24 PM
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I would get some 1.6 roller rockers now and then get a mail order tune instead of the hypertech.
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 04:25 PM
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You could do the coolant throttle body bypass which is good for a few hp. There aren't too many free mods after that that will gain you anything big.

Headers and a mail order tune would be my choice. GMMG + headers with a catted y is one of the best sounding exhaust combos for these cars.

You could also focus on suspension. A good set of shocks and springs will make the car more fun to drive. Sub frame connectors are also a must; they will tighten the whole car up.
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