LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

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Old 07-28-2012, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
Yes the rotating assembly is pretty much gen 1 SBC but the block is not the same casting and is not the same casting as aftermarket SBC block either.

The guys that argue straight is better in this block sight the fact GM knew they were installing 4-bolts on the Vette and designed the web for straight.

Like I said though in the real world I don't think there is a tangible difference as other things will be a problem first so long as the caps of either design are quality and installed/machined for correctly.

If you want to bring in other blocks as arguments why when they redesigned the smallblock did the LS get 4 straight and 2 lateral? If splayed were the ultimate then they could have designed it with splayed. Hell they went 6-bolt even with a structural oilpan.

Sprayed is stronger.
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Originally Posted by BIGCAT7274
Sprayed is stronger.
Are you using nitrous to cryo temper the block????


To those that swear they know the answer how are you measuring it?
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
Are you using nitrous to cryo temper the block????


To those that swear they know the answer how are you measuring it?
the main goal is to keep the cap from walking. my block is a 2 bolt block. so my caps have certain clearance at the stepped portion on the cap. when they are torqued its basically locks the cap against the register. i don't believe the bolts or the main web is the weak point at our power level.

on our 3500 series engine the main cap bolt are all 4 bolts splayed as are the 4 rod cap bolts. the only thing better than splayed is a cross bolt configuration.

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Well im definitely going for a small first build but eventually ill have to call Nelson Racing Engines. There building 2300hp SBC & 2700hp 632 Race gas warrior. Thats insane and supposedly daily drivable. Any one ever does business with Tom Nelson?
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for $54,000 I would hope it was insane.
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BTW I know this thread is old but does anyone know how much power Big Ricks LT1 had? was it a single or twin turbo? and how reliable was it?
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Originally Posted by 93Euphoria
BTW I know this thread is old but does anyone know how much power Big Ricks LT1 had? was it a single or twin turbo? and how reliable was it?
I wanna say 1600 or so.

At 30 lbs of boost it made 1240rwhp through a glide and a 9 inch on slicks.

See here.

http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...ntiac_feature/
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I read a few months back of someone building an AWD 12 camaro...so it could be doable, but as much as I like the LT1 one also I dont think the block like Puck said will take it. Best bet is to build LSx and look into how to do an AWD 4th gen now that would be cool as hell.
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Someone on here had a a 4th Gen Camaro he was converting to AWD. Admittedly, he was also moving the engine to the rear, so take his efforts with a grain of salt.
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This is someone who actually had did it and ran. Motor was in stock location also I think from the way the pics looked.
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BTW I think Rick ran the 8.06 ET on 24 lbs of boost in the heat of summer.

I wish he would have finished running and tweaking the car, it had 7.50's in it IMO in good air on full boost(30lbs).
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Originally Posted by FASTFATBOY
I wanna say 1600 or so.

At 30 lbs of boost it made 1240rwhp through a glide and a 9 inch on slicks.

See here.

http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...ntiac_feature/


I love that car, wish it was still around.
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Originally Posted by DisasterFormula
Someone on here had a a 4th Gen Camaro he was converting to AWD. Admittedly, he was also moving the engine to the rear, so take his efforts with a grain of salt.
I think this was the post your talking about. And IMO it would take guts & $$ to make a mid-engined AWD 4th gen Camaro. I doubt itll be done but lets hope im wrong.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/conversio...wd-camaro.html

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Rick's Formula had a good top end but the bottom end wasn't any thing crazy, pretty street carish. Not much differen't then whats in your average LT1 blower car. That car used to be a big motor, doped street car, then he tried a nitrous race car and then lastly the turbo set up. That bottom end had a Cola crank, Eagle H beams and some J.e's. Erik K was doing the engine work on that car and is rebuilding my 398, we talk about Rick's old car a lot when I am at his shop since we both knew him. That car had 7s in it, but there were external circumstances that had nothing to do with the car that caused him to give up on it. He wanted a 7 pretty bad, but that car wasn't cheap to run. He had a lot more fun in it when it was a 10 second stroker/nitrous six speed car. When Erik and I talk, a few changes and that car would have been right. Never know now, he had it and was in the race to break 7s with the LS1 crowd. Just got out spent which was always the issue.

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I love that car, wish it was still around.
I saw it a few years ago, roller now
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It sure does cost a lot of money$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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Originally Posted by Z8'S
It sure does cost a lot of money$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Balla.
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Originally Posted by 93Euphoria
I think this was the post your talking about. And IMO it would take guts & $$ to make a mid-engined AWD 4th gen Camaro. I doubt itll be done but lets hope im wrong.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/conversio...wd-camaro.html

No that isnt it either....it was a 2012 that it was done to. Seen in it in one of the LSx articles I think or someplace like that. And it was finished and running.
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Originally Posted by Bigtoyz
No that isnt it either....it was a 2012 that it was done to. Seen in it in one of the LSx articles I think or someplace like that. And it was finished and running.
Your referring to a different build then the one to the guy i just replied to. Arent you talking about the 68 camaro that had 5th gen camaro tail lights and it was AWD?!
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Originally Posted by Dave357LT1
You fell in love with the ugly girl lol. But to each their own.
read the whole thread, went back to quote this. Sorry euphoria, time to switch to LSx.
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Originally Posted by Bigtoyz
No that isnt it either....it was a 2012 that it was done to. Seen in it in one of the LSx articles I think or someplace like that. And it was finished and running.
and BTW in your sig it says converting to rear mount turbo. You wont make any power with rear mount turbos. IMO its a waste of time and money. Just do a Turbo setup thats closer to the exhaust manifolds. Correct me if im wrong! Take a look at Nelsons Racing Engines. The perfect art of what a turbo setup is!


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