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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 09:00 PM
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hey guys, had an accident today. My girl and i had my 1996 trans am on a POS pep-boys "racing" floor jack to put it on jack stand's, that went well, but before i dropped it i forgot i had a jack stand under the car. Out of no where, before i could fully remove the jack stand, the floor jack failed, and the car came down on the one the jack, and bending my passenger side header by the y pipe, and did a number on that as well. luckily, i saw it creeping down slowly before it totally crashed... anyway, i can always opt for a new set of pacesetter's for 300, but i have a good deal on some mid's. should i just go for the longtubes, or is the gain, not worth the extra 150 buck's? im not going crazy with this car right now, just a mild bolt on car, thanks guys!!
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 09:35 PM
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it just depends on how much money you want to spend... you could get a set of brand new long tubes or you can take a small hp hit and do the mids .... if the mids have 1 3/4" primaries then you wont lose a whole lot. but if there 1 5/8" then you would probably notice it
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 10:05 PM
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I would put MAC midlength against a lot of short or mid headers and win with overall power.
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 10:21 PM
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long tubes dudes!
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 08:09 AM
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i had mids for about 2 weeks before i got smart and ordered long tubes. if emissions and inspections are not an issue then the decision should be a no-brainer
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 08:45 AM
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I just installed the TSP Long tubes on mine yesterday 1 7/8's.... LS1 car... Fun to say the least.
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 12:04 PM
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I had SLP shorties which are more of a mid and Hooker LTs on my LT1 car. To be honest I like the shorties better because they lasted longer. The LTs (Hookers anyway) hung so low that they were always into the road grime and took a beating. If you get LTs... just get a set that tuck up tight. Performance-wise I dont know that you would notice much different but I did like the sound of the LTs much better.
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 01:42 PM
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I researched for a while before buying my Mac mids - true, LTs will give more peak power in the higher RPMs, mids have a fatter curve and more power in the lower RPMs... perfect for me since I drive my car daily and rarely rev higher than 4k

Plus, ground clearance is incredible - my fender tabs are the lowest point on my car
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by VinR1
perfect for me since I drive my car daily and rarely rev higher than 4k

Plus, ground clearance is incredible - my fender tabs are the lowest point on my car
I have pacesetter LTs and I know my ground clearance is really good, I dont think they sit much lower then the fender tabs, if at all.

But the 4k part, I DD my car as well and every time I leave a stop I take first to at least 4k
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 02:27 PM
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I have no ground clearence issues with my LT. My car is dropped 1.2''. The thing that gets hit the most is my air dam
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 04:39 PM
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hey whats the deal with summit brand longtube's??? 1 3/4 inch, look like pacesetters to me. and they are like 40 dollars cheaper, any reviews on these?
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 1991camaro_rs
hey whats the deal with summit brand longtube's??? 1 3/4 inch, look like pacesetters to me. and they are like 40 dollars cheaper, any reviews on these?
I believe they are rebranded pacesetters. Look just like mine.
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 09:45 PM
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I loved my mac mids. I went with ebay (kooks rip off) lt's and almost wish i stayed witht he mac's. There fitment was perfect they freed up alot of power and they sounded great. I Love the LT's but ground clearance is a PITA and so is trying to get to the oil filter.
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Old Dec 8, 2012 | 12:52 AM
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lol i just went for the summit brand, ill take lots of pictures for anyone interested in what they look like.
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Old Dec 8, 2012 | 07:31 AM
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Stainless long tubes here, and I am lowered.

post up some pics when you get, or make a new thread deatailing them.
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