hey guys, had an accident today. My girl and i had my 1996 trans am on a POS pep-boys "racing" floor jack to put it on jack stand's, that went well, but before i dropped it i forgot i had a jack stand under the car. Out of no where, before i could fully remove the jack stand, the floor jack failed, and the car came down on the one the jack, and bending my passenger side header by the y pipe, and did a number on that as well. luckily, i saw it creeping down slowly before it totally crashed... anyway, i can always opt for a new set of pacesetter's for 300, but i have a good deal on some mid's. should i just go for the longtubes, or is the gain, not worth the extra 150 buck's? im not going crazy with this car right now, just a mild bolt on car, thanks guys!!

 

it just depends on how much money you want to spend... you could get a set of brand new long tubes or you can take a small hp hit and do the mids .... if the mids have 1 3/4" primaries then you wont lose a whole lot. but if there 1 5/8" then you would probably notice it

 

I would put MAC midlength against a lot of short or mid headers and win with overall power.

 

long tubes dudes!

 

i had mids for about 2 weeks before i got smart and ordered long tubes. if emissions and inspections are not an issue then the decision should be a no-brainer

 

I just installed the TSP Long tubes on mine yesterday 1 7/8's.... LS1 car... Fun to say the least.

 

I had SLP shorties which are more of a mid and Hooker LTs on my LT1 car. To be honest I like the shorties better because they lasted longer. The LTs (Hookers anyway) hung so low that they were always into the road grime and took a beating. If you get LTs... just get a set that tuck up tight. Performance-wise I dont know that you would notice much different but I did like the sound of the LTs much better.

 

I researched for a while before buying my Mac mids - true, LTs will give more peak power in the higher RPMs, mids have a fatter curve and more power in the lower RPMs... perfect for me since I drive my car daily and rarely rev higher than 4k

Plus, ground clearance is incredible - my fender tabs are the lowest point on my car

 

I have pacesetter LTs and I know my ground clearance is really good, I dont think they sit much lower then the fender tabs, if at all.

But the 4k part, I DD my car as well and every time I leave a stop I take first to at least 4k

 

I have no ground clearence issues with my LT. My car is dropped 1.2''. The thing that gets hit the most is my air dam

 

hey whats the deal with summit brand longtube's??? 1 3/4 inch, look like pacesetters to me. and they are like 40 dollars cheaper, any reviews on these?

 

I believe they are rebranded pacesetters. Look just like mine.

 

I loved my mac mids. I went with ebay (kooks rip off) lt's and almost wish i stayed witht he mac's. There fitment was perfect they freed up alot of power and they sounded great. I Love the LT's but ground clearance is a PITA and so is trying to get to the oil filter.

 

lol i just went for the summit brand, ill take lots of pictures for anyone interested in what they look like.

 

Stainless long tubes here, and I am lowered.

post up some pics when you get, or make a new thread deatailing them.