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Old 12-13-2012, 07:14 PM
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https://ls1tech.com/forums/lt1-lt4-m...o-results.html
I would be cheaper to just buy an exact copy of this topend than to consider a fabricated intake or even a single plane conversion.
I know that is the second time I linked it.

I think folks are all too willing to dismiss what has been done in favor of what they think will work.
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96, though the horsepower numbers will be similar, if OP just buys the matching top end to Thunderchicken, he is still down on compression and short 14 cubic inches. He could obviously have the heads milled for compression but that'll affect shrouding and flow possibly by a great margin.

Do you think he's maybe too caught up in the actual numbers and he should just get a really nice custom grind spec'd for him? The car should respond favorably to a bit more aggressive and tailored cam. The difference should be enough to feel SOTP even if not quite 50 Hp.
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You might be able to gain 50rwhp at a few points in the graph but I doubt you will cross 500. Might be able to flatten your curve a bit with custom grind on say a 108 or 110, but 500 is a very rare feat to hit with an NA pump gas LT1. I cant even think of anyone, (aside from joel maybe but he never dynoed his car) who has crossed 500 on pump gas with a hyd roller...
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Originally Posted by bufmatmuslepants
You might be able to gain 50rwhp at a few points in the graph but I doubt you will cross 500. Might be able to flatten your curve a bit with custom grind on say a 108 or 110, but 500 is a very rare feat to hit with an NA pump gas LT1
Agreed. He may see 50 Hp at some point on the graph but it probably won't be at the peak.
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Originally Posted by draggin97s10
The numbers you have now are great..especially for 113lsa...i would be happy with that cam. It probably makes great numbers under the curve..But if you want a change i would go custom grind approach whoever you chose with goals in mind and they will get you as close as the can.
eehh they are okay im greedy though lol, who makes custom grinds is what im trying to figure out

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If you only put 1k on it in a year then why not go SR?

You have the computer, short block, and good heads so give the motor the cam it wants and it will make your lofty goal easier to reach.

What valve train you running? Springs, push rods, rockers?3
nah its a true street car, to much wear and tear with a sr..
running tea valvetrain good for 650 lift, harned 7,200, comp full roller 1,6

Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
500rwhp would be a tall order but you can get up close to that with a hydraulic LT1 but to think you could gain 50rwhp from one hydraulic performance grind to another is not realistic.
yea prolly not but doesnt hurt to try gotta have goals lol

Originally Posted by bufmatmuslepants
You might be able to gain 50rwhp at a few points in the graph but I doubt you will cross 500. Might be able to flatten your curve a bit with custom grind on say a 108 or 110, but 500 is a very rare feat to hit with an NA pump gas LT1. I cant even think of anyone, (aside from joel maybe but he never dynoed his car) who has crossed 500 on pump gas with a hyd roller...
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Agreed. He may see 50 Hp at some point on the graph but it probably won't be at the peak.
im working with tick performance and they are gonna design me up a cam
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Tick has a lot of happy customers. They should do you proud.
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How street driveable do you want it? I'd suggest something around 244-248 intake duration on a 104-105 ICL, 107lsa would work with an 8-10 degree split.
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BTW I made 480/459 with a 240/252 cam.
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Originally Posted by BOOSTED AFR
Tick has a lot of happy customers. They should do you proud.
yea i have been with tick for a few years now, they built my engine lol

Originally Posted by Wicked94Z
How street driveable do you want it? I'd suggest something around 244-248 intake duration on a 104-105 ICL, 107lsa would work with an 8-10 degree split.
its mostly a weekend car and street terror lol.. yea im excited to see what kinda cam we are gonna go with im hoping to know something tomorrow
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BTW I made 480/459 with a 240/252 cam.
im jealous lol
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youve got a computer good to 8000 and a bottom end good into the 7krpm range.....run a moderate HR cam with good valvetrain parts, dont be afraid to go 72-7400 with it........get it done....theres alot of good cam companies out there me personally ive had great luck with AI's stuff......i rolled 425 cam only in my ls2 DD with a AI 226/234 and i rolled 550 with my LT with a larger AI SR cam but its nothing super crazy
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most likely gonna be going with 247/254 .624"/.595" 112+4
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Originally Posted by Wicked94Z
BTW I made 480/459 with a 240/252 cam.

Was that with your M6?
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The duration is correct, but the LSA is too wide and ICL too late. It'll be soft in the midrange, which is NOT what you want with only a 4.11 gear. Looks like an LS1 grind to me, not something for a 8.5" intake tract.
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Originally Posted by gregrob
Was that with your M6?
Yeppers
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Originally Posted by Wicked94Z
The duration is correct, but the LSA is too wide and ICL too late. It'll be soft in the midrange, which is NOT what you want with only a 4.11 gear. Looks like an LS1 grind to me, not something for a 8.5" intake tract.
so what do you suggest?
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Originally Posted by lt4388stroker
so what do you suggest?
Originally Posted by Wicked94Z
How street driveable do you want it? I'd suggest something around 244-248 intake duration on a 104-105 ICL, 107lsa would work with an 8-10 degree split.
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