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Old Apr 9, 2020 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob94hawk
Here's a post from Tommy Roberts on the configuration. And from I understand you can even choose cast aluminum.

Tommy Roberts this is still changing as we go. But here's where we're at

Ltx block as follows:

Bore: 4.000-4.200
Stroke: up to 4.500 inch
Deck height: 8.700,9.200,9.700
Cam: raised 0.391 60mm roller standard. Can accommodate up to a 70mm Babbitt
Mains: 2 piece rear main seal with billet steel splayed caps 350 or 400 main.
Wide pan rail.
Available in Ltx(reverse flow)or Sbc configuration.
Siamese cylinders.
Can take any lifter configuratiinon and any size lifter to take any head.
I don’t have Facebook is why I jumped on here. I will put the full amount down up front no problem. Definitely want aluminum. I just want to do a 4.155x4.000. Everything else LT1 specific. Just spec a different CamMotion LLSR to still make power peak at 6800-7000rpm and let it eat. Open my AFR Eliminator heads up a little too.
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Old Apr 9, 2020 | 09:07 PM
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I keep hearing bits and pieces about it too but I don’t have Facebook either. There a copy of a post on ltxtech though. I wish there would be an announcement on one of the forums about it. I really hope it works out.
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Old Apr 10, 2020 | 01:20 AM
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I'd love to finally see this happen!
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Old Apr 10, 2020 | 07:58 AM
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Aren't they still like $55k shy of the goal? The last update from facebook was almost 3 years ago.
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Old Apr 11, 2020 | 12:07 AM
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I know that’sa lot of money but then again I ask myself, is it really to a big company? Seems to Me that they’d make their money back on the quick!
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Old Apr 11, 2020 | 07:58 AM
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Making money back and LT1 stuff? You can't be serious.

I would be pleasantly surprised if this comes out and hopefully drops down in price a little.
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Old Apr 11, 2020 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Vicious95Z28
I know that’sa lot of money but then again I ask myself, is it really to a big company? Seems to Me that they’d make their money back on the quick!
this idea has at made at least one round years ago. There was a lot of enthusiasm, but it dwindled quickly. Right now there’s no way anyone is going to spend that kind of money UFN.
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Old Apr 11, 2020 | 05:57 PM
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this idea has at made at least one round years ago. There was a lot of enthusiasm, but it dwindled quickly. Right now there’s no way anyone is going to spend that kind of money UFN.
It didn't dwindle. Dart pulled the project. Fucked us all over while we were all waving cash in their faces. Now with the covid crisis Dart is most likely losing **** tons of $$ and I don't feel the least bit bad. **** em.

And supposedly the company that is casting this LTX block will give the option for it to be aluminum. So if it costs me $4000 next year so be it.
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Old Apr 11, 2020 | 08:31 PM
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How many was “us?” I thought it was scrapped because there wasn’t enough interest. i was highly interested willing to spend the money, but i don’t feel as though i was fucked over.
doesn’t this other company still need tens of thousands of dollars from buyers before they’ll even produce one of these blocks?
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Old Apr 12, 2020 | 01:51 AM
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Maybe someone can convince the Australians to produce a billet aluminum LT1 block. They'll probably only need to sell a dozen or so to see a return on the investment.

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Old Apr 13, 2020 | 08:27 PM
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How many was “us?” I thought it was scrapped because there wasn’t enough interest. i was highly interested willing to spend the money, but i don’t feel as though i was fucked over.
doesn’t this other company still need tens of thousands of dollars from buyers before they’ll even produce one of these blocks?
Dart didn't want to invest in the tooling which they claimed would have set them back $70,000. Which I really don't get since the LT1 is pretty much a SBC with a few differences.

Meanwhile they offer a custom aluminum billet block and iron block choices. Makes no sense.

http://dartheads.com/dart-product/sbc-billet-blocks/
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Old Apr 13, 2020 | 08:49 PM
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I will spend 4k on a aluminum block all day. I love my LT1. It would be a dream to turn it into a 434 with a cam motion LLSR.

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Old Apr 13, 2020 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob94hawk
Dart didn't want to invest in the tooling which they claimed would have set them back $70,000. Which I really don't get since the LT1 is pretty much a SBC with a few differences.

Meanwhile they offer a custom aluminum billet block and iron block choices. Makes no sense.

http://dartheads.com/dart-product/sbc-billet-blocks/
I totally Agree and if the funds were there for me I’d definitely go with the aluminum block, My build isn’t an overnight build because I just simply can’t afford it to be but I’m willing to take every bit if weight savings that I can Off of my car! And as crazy as it sounds I wouldn’t mind building a stock stroke big bore that i can really twist hard with a solid roller but that would be something I'd be willing to discuss with Karl Ellwein because I think he's really who I'd like to have build my engine.
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Old Apr 13, 2020 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Vicious95Z28
I totally Agree and if the funds were there for me I’d definitely go with the aluminum block, My build isn’t an overnight build because I just simply can’t afford it to be but I’m willing to take every bit if weight savings that I can Off of my car! And as crazy as it sounds I wouldn’t mind building a stock stroke big bore that i can really twist hard with a solid roller but that would be something I'd be willing to discuss with Karl Ellwein because I think he's really who I'd like to have build my engine.
Just being able to open the bore size past 4.1 is huge in terms of untapping cylinder head power & potential. Everything else is just bonus power.
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Old Apr 13, 2020 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob94hawk
Dart didn't want to invest in the tooling which they claimed would have set them back $70,000. Which I really don't get since the LT1 is pretty much a SBC with a few differences.

Meanwhile they offer a custom aluminum billet block and iron block choices. Makes no sense.

http://dartheads.com/dart-product/sbc-billet-blocks/
I don't think they were trying to **** the LT1 market. It probably didn't make enough business sense to them in thinking it wouldn't be profitable, and there are still a **** ton of traditional SBC users out there. The GenII SBC is barely the beginning of a pimple on the *** of a traditional small block compared. JMHO.
Doesn't this new outfit also want ~$50K or more to retool their machinery to produce this block?
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Old Apr 14, 2020 | 04:35 AM
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I'll be honest I don't see a lot of people buying into a big bore lt1. At 4k a block im not gonna at this time if avaliable. I have other places I spend that money first. A 4k block is for someone pushing the limits of the lt1 block.
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Old Apr 17, 2020 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by stevo9389
Aren't they still like $55k shy of the goal? The last update from facebook was almost 3 years ago.
project is nearing completion….before all of the covid stuff went nuts we were preparing to open up for preorders....Facebook is where the majority of the information has been released. As things get finalized instead of just "getting close" one of us will find time to hit up the forums...very few folks are forum only at this time
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Old Apr 17, 2020 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Chopstix
project is nearing completion….before all of the covid stuff went nuts we were preparing to open up for preorders....Facebook is where the majority of the information has been released. As things get finalized instead of just "getting close" one of us will find time to hit up the forums...very few folks are forum only at this time
SWEET. After reading more with a 210cc head running a 4.155 X 3.75 stroke looks about the sweet spot for me. Build a peppy aluminum 406. Could even reuse my crank and rods that way. Just different pistons.
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Old Apr 17, 2020 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Chopstix
Facebook is where the majority of the information has been released.
Aftermarket ltx block committee?
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Old Apr 20, 2020 | 07:36 PM
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I say we stay positive about this one, an aluminum big bore LTX block would be awesome! Not everyone wants to swap to an LSX. I love the engines, I think they're great and I have a few laying around and I can't say that a 6.0 swap into my car hasn't crossed my mind at times but I really don't want to, I want to keep it LTX based and I'd love the weight savings of aluminum and the big bore possibility.
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