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Old 09-13-2004, 05:12 PM
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Question how to get a Soild roller cam to live on the street

I am thinking of going to a Street SR this coming winter 355/383 looking for around 440 to the rear wheel....

WHAT i am looking for is how many people have a Street SR cam, how do you get a SR to live on the street as a DD car....

Any and all info whould be get here thx
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Dam, what size are you looking to go with? I thought a 244/248 DD was big
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It's mostly in the LSA. stay above 112 and you'll be OK, and make sure you have very good posi-locks, i.e. Lunati or Comp.
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Why a "street SR"? If you're looking for something somewhat streetable and with less maintenance there are plenty of off the shelf HR grinds that will get you where you want to be without the valvetrain hassle.

"Street" and "solid roller" IMO don't mix well. If you're looking for a smaller solid roller that would do well on the street, you can find a HR that will perform just as well.

How high do you plan on spinning? DFI, FAST? What heads? Any reason why a SR vs. HR?
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My friend was solid roller and had an issue getting enough oil on his lifters. Ended up running 10s at the track and it died after cruising on the streets... starved of oil. I cant remember exactly what the issue was.
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Originally Posted by GhostZ
Why a "street SR"? If you're looking for something somewhat streetable and with less maintenance there are plenty of off the shelf HR grinds that will get you where you want to be without the valvetrain hassle.

"Street" and "solid roller" IMO don't mix well. If you're looking for a smaller solid roller that would do well on the street, you can find a HR that will perform just as well.

How high do you plan on spinning? DFI, FAST? What heads? Any reason why a SR vs. HR?

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With a solid roller you will have to adjust your rocker arms quite a bit, usually every oil change, but it will make some big power. I am going to run a solid roller but it won't be a daily driver. My personal opinion is to stick with a hydralic. Good luck with either.
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Anyone here running SR cams in the cars...,who has a SR cam...People have to have ways to get SR to live on the street
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I am running a solid roller..I have 3500 miles on the motor so far.. Been on 3 hour trips with it!! No problems at all so far. You just have to keep the valves adjusted. (I am also running poly locks and a stud girdle)
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What kind of lifters, what size is your cam, what oil pump, what kind of oil pressure do you run at idle/driving....

Is there more people out there...
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Crower Solid roller lifters.. .600 lift.. Mellings High Volume oil pump (ported)... About 15 psi of oil pressure at idle(1000 rpm) and around 53 psi off idle. I have been VERY satisfied with this setup!
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What rpm are you turing...What kind of power did you make hp/tq...

Basicly what is your hole top end...

There has to be more people running SR cams
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i turn it about 7000 and it made 505/475 at the flywheel
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What makes a solid roller cam so much different then a hydrolic? Why do you have to adust the rockers on a solid roller and not on say, a trex...
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The trick to making a SR living on the street is oiling to the roller lifters. Some guys cut grooves in the lifter body from the oil galley area down to the axles of the roller bearings. This gives a good fresh supply of oil to the bearings during slow cruising speeds. The Comp Endur-X <not positive on the name> rollers lifters have this same type of groove already machined in them. The Crower lifters seem to hold up well on the street also, I think they have tapered needle bearing rollers. Crane solid roller lifters seem to have the worst failure rate on street duty SR's. They are also the lowest priced so going with quality here will def. pay off.

The intense spring pressures and lack of oiling are what kills them. Extended street use eats up springs too, depending how radical you go with lift and rpms.

If you're willing to go the extra mile, you can make a SR live on the street, but it's not going to be easy.

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I have been running 267@.050 duration with .680 valve lift with a solid roller and have had no problems (sounds awesome). makes awesome power. It really only takes 45 minutes to do valve lash a few times a summer after you get used to it. I wouldnt worry about it to much. But unless you plan on going with something large that will REALLY make a difference, I am with the other guys, why bother and waste your money for a measly 10 hp or something. Just my 2 cents.
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Originally Posted by 2MuchRiceMakesMeSick
What makes a solid roller cam so much different then a hydrolic? Why do you have to adust the rockers on a solid roller and not on say, a trex...
A hydraulic lifter Pumps Up using oil to fill the clearance between the pushrod and rocker...A solid roller is ....well..Solid, so the clearances change, and have to be re adjusted
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mikey 97m6 said it very well!

comp lifers aren't cheap by any means!!! i don't consider them crap, but...you can bet your *** that street driving kills them over time! oil starvation is the key. they een recommend swapping them on an anual basis, this can be costly, but cheaper than rebuilding a motor i guess!

i have a set that will be going for rebuild and i will pull the ones out of the motor for a rebuild over the winter. i will maintain a fresh set on the shelf.

any specs on how deep of a groove is required to aid in oiling on the Sr lifter body?

I even went so far as to install a Titan Billet Oil pump into my motor last year, no not cheap but can beat it for piece of mind!

i can lash almost blind fold now, not that hard really! i do mine iften...more thtan required so sometimes i might adjust only 3-4 rockers a tad bit. i am also running the Jesel Shaft Mount setup on the heads.
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Taner how man KM a year do you drive on the street...SR cam's will givre me allot better under the curve numbers ...and i think i should see 20rw peak..

So people what parts do you have in your SR set up..

thx
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Originally Posted by taner
mikey 97m6 said it very well!

any specs on how deep of a groove is required to aid in oiling on the Sr lifter body?
I don't have exact specs but considering it's under pressure, I wouldn't go more than .003-.005" deep. You could call Comp Cams and probably get a depth from them on their Endur-X lifters.

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