View Poll Results: LT1 LS1 LID CONVERSION???
Yes As Soon As They Started Selling
36
35.64%
No Not Interested
21
20.79%
Maybe Depending on price
45
44.55%
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LT1 LS1 Airlid Conversion
Originally Posted by speed_demon24
I love how people keep hacking up their cars to do this mod when there hasn't been 1 before/after dyno posted yet. 
This mod is something that will prove itself on the track more than it will a Dyno.
Originally Posted by the_merv
Before was 318RWHP/320RWTQ. Now it's 336RWHP, est. 335RWTQ. I don't think a MSD Blaster Coil will make that much of a difference..
This mod is something that will prove itself on the track more than it will a Dyno.
This mod is something that will prove itself on the track more than it will a Dyno.
Originally Posted by speed_demon24
I feel sorry for you if you believe that a lid gained you 18rwhp over an aftermarket CAI...
That lid might be good for a couple more HP, but not that much.
Thats what you get from LongTubes. No way a box thats breathe's a little better is good for 18hp, or 18 more for that matter. Thats just insane.
Im not saying its not efficient and I think its a cool idea, but 20hp?
If you believe that, then your a fool.
Originally Posted by speed_demon24
I feel sorry for you if you believe that a lid gained you 18rwhp over an aftermarket CAI...
I can tell you that the Lid will show it's gains at the track, I feel it on the street where it's different.
Originally Posted by the_merv
Didn't say that. You tell me then where I gained better numbers...
I can tell you that the Lid will show it's gains at the track, I feel it on the street where it's different.
I can tell you that the Lid will show it's gains at the track, I feel it on the street where it's different.
I guarentee you could switch from a nice CAI to that Lid, and you wouldnt notice a damn thing, 5hp, maybe a couple more.
And thats giving it credit. Your motor/intake/tb only takes in so much air.
Unless you go FI, or cam, or whatever.
So you think that my fresh Engine, with everything all still tight inside of it is why
I got better numbers? I port-matched my Heads myself, I don't think that is what got it to those numbers..maybe all of the stuff together.
I got better numbers? I port-matched my Heads myself, I don't think that is what got it to those numbers..maybe all of the stuff together.
Originally Posted by the_merv
So you think that my fresh Engine, with everything all still tight inside of it is why
I got better numbers? I port-matched my Heads myself, I don't think that is what got it to those numbers..maybe all of the stuff together.
I got better numbers? I port-matched my Heads myself, I don't think that is what got it to those numbers..maybe all of the stuff together.
Merv I like your car and what youve done, but lets not get off topic here.
Is the Lid a drastic improvement over a CAI? IMO, no.
Maybe a handful of HP, especially going down the road... but more than that?
I will need to see it to believe it.
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I have the Z hood, and Im gonna hold off on changing my CAI to a box style. I will get everything done with my 383 and then im gonna see how much of a gain it brings. I hate having a hood that has intake capability, and not using it. I do not however think that it would be worth the money unless it brought something worthwhile .
Another benefit I can think of right away though is ease of intake removal. I get pissed when I have to remove the K&N CAI or want to service the filter. It gets ridiculous removing the plastic cladding underneath to get to it.
Merv, did you have to move the radiator back, or just cut the support??
Merv, did you have to move the radiator back, or just cut the support??
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Joined: Feb 2006
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Well I just want to throw in my two cents. I came from a Calloway honker CAI setup, which is probably one of the best. This intake was fantastic and to be totally honest I probably would have stayed with it had I not found a deal on the ultra Z hood. Now having had both I will tell you that its pretty close. In fact below 65mph there ain't much of a difference. The biggest difference between the two that I could tell was on the hwy. Mashing the gas and charging to 100mph happened much quicker IMO with the Ultra Z set up. Ram air is expensive, so the CAI set up wins that argument everytime.
I did my conversion about a week ago and I have to say the car is a bit different now. It pulls noticeably harder even at part throttle as well WOT. I have a Firehawk(obviously) and when comparing my ram air box to the LS1 lid, I have an aftermarket one but not sure which, it is alot better design. The main reason I did the swap was because I was tired of cleaning my filter everytime it rained or it got windy and threw a ton of dust and crap in it but I'm very pleased with it and won't be going back.
Originally Posted by Greedynessnish
95Firehawk0158 when will you be able to provide a new E.T with your set-up? I'm thinking of getting an UltraZ hood and wondering if the gains are worth the swap.
Derrell
Derrell
Originally Posted by camarolvr69
so merv you got any plans for a kit soon..i would be interested
On The Tree
Joined: Oct 2006
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From: Northwest burbs of Chicago
problem comes into play with copyrights. You couldn't just sell them, you'd have to be licensed and contact SLP, Whisper etc.... Takes a lot of work man. Now if your just making a few on the side and ebay them you'll probably be better off that way.
btw the lids do not have the bottom piece, and there harder than hell to find, cause all the LS1 guys keep them when they switch lids. You need the bottoms for the LT1 guys unless you have a junkyard at your finger tips that's a hard one.
Also unless you have a insider deal your probably just going to break even. The bellows alone are 60 bucks on summit, lids are 100 K&N I believe are 40 or so and then the ducting, there's darn near 300. For that price people could just go to Summit and buy it straight from a warehouse.
btw the lids do not have the bottom piece, and there harder than hell to find, cause all the LS1 guys keep them when they switch lids. You need the bottoms for the LT1 guys unless you have a junkyard at your finger tips that's a hard one.
Also unless you have a insider deal your probably just going to break even. The bellows alone are 60 bucks on summit, lids are 100 K&N I believe are 40 or so and then the ducting, there's darn near 300. For that price people could just go to Summit and buy it straight from a warehouse.