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Old 04-29-2007, 11:48 PM
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i came down to these two places to get heads from. which would be the better choice its between stage 1 vs. le1 and stage 2 vs. le2
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They look similar, but the port pros site doesn't list flow numbers.

Have you looked at TEA as well?
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Originally Posted by seawolf06
They look similar, but the port pros site doesn't list flow numbers.

Have you looked at TEA as well?
nope havent look at them yet whats the site?
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http://www.totalengineairflow.com/pr.../gmhead/gmlt1/

An example:

http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=485694
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Originally Posted by seawolf06
They look similar, but the port pros site doesn't list flow numbers.

Have you looked at TEA as well?
From the flow #s posted in another thread in this section its clear that they are at least as good or better than lloyd's.
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Im liking port pros.....


Didnt Tony Sheperd get his **** done there?

Side note, anyone notice how people with Lloyd heads are putting down alot better power with BRE custom cams?
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Theres ALOT of choices when it comes to porting LT1 heads, I have Lloyds LE3's and have delt with Lloyd many times on the phone and through emails and he has been SUPer helpfull. But what it really it really comes down to is how much you want to spend, AI (advanced Induction) I believe holds the record for fastest N/A LT1 (I could be wrong). and they were very helpful when I called them while doing research. the only reason I didnt go to them was because I found a deal on the LE's I couldnt pass up. Ive never delt with TEA or port pros so I cant help you there.
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Tony Shepard is sponsored by PortPros, and has one helluva combo going. PortPros built his entire motor, mine as well.

My heads are stg2 and while I dont have the sheets in front of me, I remember that they flowed just above AFR 195's across the entire curve intake and exhaust.

The reason he does not list flow #'s is because they are all hand ported and actual numbers vary. Rest assured, he does flow check each set and makes sure they meet a minimum flow.

Mine came very close the the stg3 minimum flow numbers.
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i heard port pros uses wood inserts to up their flow numbers.
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Originally Posted by LT1MAN
i heard port pros uses wood inserts to up their flow numbers.
I wouldn't be suprised, as I have a set of their ported Trick Flow heads and I took them to LME and they didn't flow anywhere near where he said they would.
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see.......

they are local to me, about 20 mins away. i was going to use them until i heard that.
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Originally Posted by LT1MAN
i heard port pros uses wood inserts to up their flow numbers.

Who told you that lie? I have watched them flow heads. They do it the correct way and with only a 4" bore which shows less flow than other companies. Look at AFR.....they advertise head flow sheets with 4.030 or 4.060 bore sizes which raises the actual flow #'s.
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Originally Posted by LT1MAN
see.......

they are local to me, about 20 mins away. i was going to use them until i heard that.

They are in Austin TX....not NC.
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Originally Posted by 91Z28
I wouldn't be suprised, as I have a set of their ported Trick Flow heads and I took them to LME and they didn't flow anywhere near where he said they would.

Of coarse LME would tell you that. PortPros is their competition.
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Originally Posted by LT1MAN
i heard port pros uses wood inserts to up their flow numbers.
This one I have never heard before?! We don't use wooden inserts in our heads to help flow. I wouldn't know how to use a wooded insert to help flow even if it did.

We are located in Austin Texas not N.C.

As far as having our heads flowed at other shops, there will be a difference in flow, benches are different, operators are different, the radius use from shop to shop are different, ask anyone who ports heads on this site they will tell you the same.

I stand behind the work we do, just look at the guys running our heads we put down very good HP numbers.

Nathan, if you have any issues with the heads we did for you just call me up and I will be happy to address them.

Thanks!
Harold
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512-257-0222
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I have LE heads, great heads and i'm now wanting a BRE cam. Car put down 370rwhp with the 9" and the GM847.
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Originally Posted by Tony Shepherd
Of coarse LME would tell you that. PortPros is their competition.
I just talked to Harold on the phone and he told me the same thing. I retract my previous post as we have come to an understanding and Harold has resolved the issue. I had no idea about the whole LME/PortPros thing or I would have never gone there in the first place.
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LE/BRE here.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/1214677
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AI uses a wood shim for there intake on the flow bench.

And most companies dont even use the actual bore of the engine the heads will be going on..or the same size exhaust piping....Lots of factors in flow benching.

Some heads are proven and some are not, Portpros is high on my list of quality work and I would more then willingly send them my cylinder heads for porting.

Tony.
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Wow! Make a post, come back in an hour and all this

Harold is a top notch guy to deal with. Always willing to go above and beyond to make the customer happy. Ive NEVER dealt with a company as good as Port Pros. Customer service/communication is great, no complaints hear.

I almost didnt go with them initially because they were so far away from me. After spending about 35min on the phone with Harold I couldnt wait to get him some $$$ to get started on my motor.

No regrets here!


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