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how much hp can you gain from a basic port job?

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Old 01-19-2008, 10:20 PM
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what Kind of #'s can you expect With a basic port job and ls1 valves being cut in?
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Depends on what your definition is basic is. You understand that LS1 valves are metric and fitting them to an LT1 head would not be "basic".

Ported LT1 heads are capable of substantial power, the company I used has several cars iin the 500rwhp area and more recently a couple of 429rwhp street cars one a 350 the other a 355. Most places are not going to be able to duplicate such.
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My heads are ported and flow about 240 cfm; with a LT4 hot cam I am making about 375 RWHP.
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Originally Posted by qwk93ta
My heads are ported and flow about 240 cfm; with a LT4 hot cam I am making about 375 RWHP.
Wow, if you're making that much rwhp, you should be in the 11's@115-116 mph. Your time in your sig don't match. Even if you did not have traction, your mph tells alot.
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Originally Posted by BOLO
Wow, if you're making that much rwhp, you should be in the 11's@115-116 mph. Your time in your sig don't match. Even if you did not have traction, your mph tells alot.

you realize his mph was through an auto, right?
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And 18 months between the runs.

Flow numbers are easily compared by the layman, but they are not the most important thing to a true heads professional.
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
And 18 months between the runs.

Flow numbers are easily compared by the layman, but they are not the most important thing to a true heads professional.
Flow #'s sell heads, that's it. There's people with supposidly badass topends running pathetic times for their setups, and then theres people with supposidly weak heads running as fast if not faster than those guys with much less. I would buy heads based on track results, not flow #'s.
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
Flow #'s sell heads, that's it. There's people with supposidly badass topends running pathetic times for their setups, and then theres people with supposidly weak heads running as fast if not faster than those guys with much less. I would buy heads based on track results, not flow #'s.
So true!
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this is for caprice. What kind of money? and Who did them I need to get mine done I would like to make the 11'S on a 125-150 shot and low 12's in the 1/4
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Advanced Induction did both my heads which are their obsolete 190cc version and speed_demon24's new 200cc that he recently put 429rwhp down with on a stock shortblock.

Last trip to GLD my worst pass of the day at about 4200lbs was 12.2 and mine is a true virgin shortblock, never even pulled a bearing cap. Like I said my heads are not even offered anymore they have a better setup with better springs.
Here is a video from last fall.
http://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...vySucks1v2.flv

There is a guy in New Berlin with a heads and cam like this too. Maybe the best thing you can do if you are on the fence is to wait till spring and check out a few cars.
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lmao at the chevy sucks hood
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The staging lanes guy was MORE than happy to line us up when I requested such. 13s is way too slow to be cocky, I have done 12.7 on street tires 255/55/ZR17 on 29lbs rims.
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Originally Posted by BOLO
Wow, if you're making that much rwhp, you should be in the 11's@115-116 mph. Your time in your sig don't match. Even if you did not have traction, your mph tells alot.
I agree with you....however I have not taken the car to the track since the tune, so I can't claim it has run 11s. The guy that tuned my car told me it should run high 11s.
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I am really not on the fence I just would like to know of a good shop and the amount I will spend so I can plan on doing it. I want the car out this spring.
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A phone # or web site would be cool also
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
The staging lanes guy was MORE than happy to line us up when I requested such. 13s is way too slow to be cocky, I have done 12.7 on street tires 255/55/ZR17 on 29lbs rims.
damn 29 pound rims what the hell were they??? by broncos rims were lighter
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I checked out ai web site I think that is where I will have them done they have some pretty impressive #'s
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
Flow #'s sell heads, that's it. There's people with supposidly badass topends running pathetic times for their setups, and then theres people with supposidly weak heads running as fast if not faster than those guys with much less. I would buy heads based on track results, not flow #'s.
Or there cars are not setup right and they are bad drivers rember that
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Originally Posted by slick1851
Or there cars are not setup right and they are bad drivers rember that
Thats why you look at the average results, and not just focusing on one person.
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Originally Posted by camaro-94-z28
damn 29 pound rims what the hell were they??? by broncos rims were lighter
The 94-6 Impala SS wheel is 17x8.5" aluminum and meant for a car about 4200 lbs curb weight, with a 2000lbs tow capacity, and 154mph speed limiter. Instead of making the rims with very good processes and materials they just used huge amounts of material to make them strong.

On average an Impala wheel and tire combo is say 58-62lbs each. Those were what was on the front of the car in that video.

Far as cars running numbers and how they are setup, I have seen cars that run well with crappy parts due to a good wrench and I see A LOT of cars that run poorly because a bad wrench made poor parts decisions compounding the problems.

Too many reputations are built on 1-2 cars, averages mean more because it is less likely it is just a skilled wrench making crap work.

I think it important to try and have some halfassed idea of what it took to get a car there too. I can point you at an Impala running high 10s in almost all weather NA with GM heads and intake but others swear you need aftermarket castings and single plane intakes and all sorts of crap to make lighter cars run that.

If I have a choice of listening to a guy who made a car run say 11.0 for 10K or listening to a guy who made one go 10.9 for $15K, I will listen to the one who went 11.0 for 10K because he is making better decisions.


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