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Old 01-13-2004, 11:30 AM
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Default Spec Stage 3 with stock master and slave?

I will be going with a Spec Stage 3 for my H/C setup, and was just curious if anyone is running this clutch with their stock master and slave. My car is a 98, what exactly is different about the updated hydraulics.
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Read my post above I have a spec 3 and an o2 MC but I didn't change the slave and I think that is what is giving me trouble now.

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id definetly get the 01+ slave...without it my pedal was sticking to the floor when i first put in my Spec Stage 3
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u need to upgrade ull get more out of it
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sorry, its a new slave master pilot bearing and i belive pilot bushing around 275 i think
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Replace the slave and you'll be fine. I put this clutch in a car a while back with stock hydraulics and an 02 slave. Worked well for 10K+ miles..

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Thanks i can get the slave and master at a pretty good price so i will upgrade those as well. I see there is another thread that SLP has new oem flywheels for like $50, what kind of flywheel would you go with, a new oem or the spec billet flywheel. I know the spec will be stronger but has anyone had problems with the stock flywheel cracking/breaking. Once i get all of this installed i really dont want to have to pull the tranny back out and fix something else. Thanks
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I am running an upgraded slave but stock 2000 master and have had 0 problems with it. The spec is a really nice setup.
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Originally Posted by Classic
I am running an upgraded slave but stock 2000 master and have had 0 problems with it. The spec is a really nice setup.
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Old 01-14-2004, 08:11 AM
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if you dont do the drill mod you will be seeing your new clutch a lot sooner than you want to.
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I didn't do the drill mod on mine with the stock 01 hydraulics and the clutch is still grabbing strong after 20,000 miles of brutal driving and 20-30 6000rpm clutch dumps spraying a 175 shot out of the hole (575ish rwhp off the line) I don't plan on doing the drill mod for my next clutch either.
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My '99 is in the shop right now with bad hydraulics (black hydraulic fluid is apparently not good...). The tranny guy is pricing out new master and slave. I have found tons of info on the web on clutch types and parts, but not hydraulics. I have seen the drill mod webpage as well. What type of hydraulics should I get (adjustable or not) and who makes them? Are the '01 and later stock hydraulics better than the '99 stock? I also still have the stock clutch, so I might do an upgrade while he's got the cover off... any advice. I haven't been happy with the stock clutch/hydraulics - popping the clutch at medium/high rpm in 1st just slips forever...
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Well gettin a new Master and SLave and some Fresh fluid in there will make the Hydraulics ALOT better.
What clutch did you have?
It was probably Going too.
You should change your Fluid about once a year.
I do and its alway black by the next time I change it.
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Any Master and Slave? I have the stock clutch, original with the car in '99, but I never liked it....
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The 01 -02 Hydraulics are suppose to be better.
Not sure what they did different but thats just what I heard.
I'm runnin stock Hydraulics with a SPEC stage three and the drill mod.
No problems here.
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Originally Posted by Damian
Replace the slave and you'll be fine. I put this clutch in a car a while back with stock hydraulics and an 02 slave. Worked well for 10K+ miles..

josh
ditto. As long as you have a 2001 or newer slave it will work great. I would not, and did not, waste money on a master...

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Yeah i just ordered my Spec Stage 3 with their billet flywheel. I am also going to order a 02 slave but i am still not sure on the master. My car is a 98 with 63,000 on the clock. All you guys running your stock master did you do the drill mod or is it completely stock?
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My Master is COMPLETELY stock and it works flawlessly (with a Spec Stage 3 and 2001+ slave)

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Cool, thanks
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all i can tell you is the spec 3 burnt out in 30 launches at the track.mine is a 2002.i got smart and did the drill mod.time will tell.


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