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Old 04-01-2015 | 07:51 PM
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Default Just pulled the trigger on Monster LT1-S with Tick Hydraulics

Before anything else, I just want to say thank you to all of the members here for the wealth of information to be found for our cars. It has been an amazing help and "Search" definitely works


Now for those who may be interested, my own clutch adventure:


02 WS6 in my sig. Bought it last year from its original owner who had a Spec 2+ put in it a couple years ago with stock hydraulics, however the clutch had very few miles on it so I figured I'd be good for a few years. Yay... Not...

A few weeks ago, I needed to pass someone on the freeway (idiot not staying in his own damn lane) and I felt the clutch slip a bit in Sixth gear as I rolled into the throttle. It came as a bit of a surprise so I babied the car the rest of the way home.

I checked and bled the system found out that the hydraulics appeared to be fine (or at least as good as the stock master cylinder works )

Took the car back out again, and pushed her a little. She wouldn't slip in first, second, third or fourth, however as soon as I hit fifth, she started to slip again. At this point I figured there was definitely something wrong, possibly a shimming issue or slave problem.

So I dropped the transmission over this past weekend and confirmed, the clutch is somehow down to the rivets on 4 of the 6 pucks.



Well ****... I haven't been hard on her or even taken her to the track and the clutch is already gone. I'm assuming it may not of been shimmed properly as I've heard many people say that Spec's almost always need a shim.

Either way with both the previous owner and myself combined, the Spec 2+ barely saw 10k miles, 4k of those being mine that were babied on the weekend to a cars and coffee or a show n' shine. Either that or as some others have said, Spec clutches are piles of steaming....

With this in mind I delved into this Sub-Forum and spent hours scouring through all of the opinions and testimonials, found out I wasn't alone with the issues with Spec, and as the title says, I figured if I was gonna do it, do it right the first time.

So I made my list:

New Tick Master
Tick Bleeder
New Slave
New Pilot
Monster LT1-S Twin Disc
18lb Flywheel (Sorry Steve I know you said get the 28lb I just had to try the 18lb from all of the raving reviews others have given it)


Just ordered the whole setup today and figured that I hadn't seen anyone else mention this particular setup (LT1-S with Tick Hydraulics and the lightened flywheel, so I though some of you may be interested in a review once its all installed.


Lastly, I really want to thank Steve at Monster Clutches.

Eric, Martin and Joey over at Tick Performance, and John at Maryland Speed.

Everyone one of you guys went out of your way to help me and explain everything in great detail, beyond what could be found here. I appreciate all of the expertise and amazing customer service you all have provided and can't wait to get these parts installed, then reviewed if people are interested.
Old 04-02-2015 | 10:37 AM
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I can't believe that's a 10,000 mile clutch! I saw one of your other posts saying avoid spec. Now I get it.

I've got about 10K on my monster, and I still have not had to adjust the master cylinder yet. Still runs like it did when I threw it in.
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Originally Posted by Blu06R1
Before anything else, I just want to say thank you to all of the members here for the wealth of information to be found for our cars. It has been an amazing help and "Search" definitely works


Now for those who may be interested, my own clutch adventure:


02 WS6 in my sig. Bought it last year from its original owner who had a Spec 2+ put in it a couple years ago with stock hydraulics, however the clutch had very few miles on it so I figured I'd be good for a few years. Yay... Not...

A few weeks ago, I needed to pass someone on the freeway (idiot not staying in his own damn lane) and I felt the clutch slip a bit in Sixth gear as I rolled into the throttle. It came as a bit of a surprise so I babied the car the rest of the way home.

I checked and bled the system found out that the hydraulics appeared to be fine (or at least as good as the stock master cylinder works )

Took the car back out again, and pushed her a little. She wouldn't slip in first, second, third or fourth, however as soon as I hit fifth, she started to slip again. At this point I figured there was definitely something wrong, possibly a shimming issue or slave problem.

So I dropped the transmission over this past weekend and confirmed, the clutch is somehow down to the rivets on 4 of the 6 pucks.



Well ****... I haven't been hard on her or even taken her to the track and the clutch is already gone. I'm assuming it may not of been shimmed properly as I've heard many people say that Spec's almost always need a shim.

Either way with both the previous owner and myself combined, the Spec 2+ barely saw 10k miles, 4k of those being mine that were babied on the weekend to a cars and coffee or a show n' shine. Either that or as some others have said, Spec clutches are piles of steaming....

With this in mind I delved into this Sub-Forum and spent hours scouring through all of the opinions and testimonials, found out I wasn't alone with the issues with Spec, and as the title says, I figured if I was gonna do it, do it right the first time.

So I made my list:

New Tick Master
Tick Bleeder
New Slave
New Pilot
Monster LT1-S Twin Disc
18lb Flywheel (Sorry Steve I know you said get the 28lb I just had to try the 18lb from all of the raving reviews others have given it)


Just ordered the whole setup today and figured that I hadn't seen anyone else mention this particular setup (LT1-S with Tick Hydraulics and the lightened flywheel, so I though some of you may be interested in a review once its all installed.


Lastly, I really want to thank Steve at Monster Clutches.

Eric, Martin and Joey over at Tick Performance, and John at Maryland Speed.

Everyone one of you guys went out of your way to help me and explain everything in great detail, beyond what could be found here. I appreciate all of the expertise and amazing customer service you all have provided and can't wait to get these parts installed, then reviewed if people are interested.
Woot, glad to hear you picked up the LT1-S!!

Keep us posted.
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Woot, glad to hear you picked up the LT1-S!!

Keep us posted.
Will do Steve and thanks again for all your help!
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I had a stage 3 that did same thing. Have another brand now, nice buy!
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I had a stage 3 that did same thing. Have another brand now, nice buy!
Thank You!

What are you running?
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Hurry up and install it, I am trying to decide between an lt serious or a rxt
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Hurry up and install it, I am trying to decide between an lt serious or a rxt
I'm waiting by the door man! Should hopefully have it next week and installed that weekend.
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Originally Posted by Blu06R1
I'm waiting by the door man! Should hopefully have it next week and installed that weekend.
Let me know what you think. Is this your first twin disc?
Old 04-03-2015 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by SMR#002
Let me know what you think. Is this your first twin disc?
Definitely will and yes this is my first twin disc.

I almost went with a RST from McLeod but saw that a few people had posted about problems with them. (Balancing, Shims etc) I wanted to stay in about the $1500 price range with the Tick Hydraulics . Plus with McLeod, it cost's an additional $5-600 to get a balanced flywheel and clutch assembly, putting you into the $1800-2000 range. That just seems way to much for a clutch assembly on a street car barely making 390 to the wheels.

I didn't want to risk just getting a standard McLeod flywheel and then finding out something was off and having to pull everything back a part. I work in QA/QC myself so a company that sets their own high QA/QC standards will always get my business.

That and Steve, the owner of Monster Clutches was great about answering all of my stupid questions (I say stupid because he's probably answered the same ones 5000 times from people like me over-researching) I had and being honest about application, use and abuse potential with his discs. He's really knowledgeable about what he does and by his customer service alone, (IMHO) he deserves our business.
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Originally Posted by Blu06R1
Definitely will and yes this is my first twin disc.

I almost went with a RST from McLeod but saw that a few people had posted about problems with them. (Balancing, Shims etc) I wanted to stay in about the $1500 price range with the Tick Hydraulics . Plus with McLeod, it cost's an additional $5-600 to get a balanced flywheel and clutch assembly, putting you into the $1800-2000 range. That just seems way to much for a clutch assembly on a street car barely making 390 to the wheels.

I didn't want to risk just getting a standard McLeod flywheel and then finding out something was off and having to pull everything back a part. I work in QA/QC myself so a company that sets their own high QA/QC standards will always get my business.

That and Steve, the owner of Monster Clutches was great about answering all of my stupid questions (I say stupid because he's probably answered the same ones 5000 times from people like me over-researching) I had and being honest about application, use and abuse potential with his discs. He's really knowledgeable about what he does and by his customer service alone, (IMHO) he deserves our business.
Thanks man, I sincerely appreciate the compliments and giving us your business!
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Thanks man, I sincerely appreciate the compliments and giving us your business!
Hey Steve, anytime man, you really know your stuff. Happen to receive my order from Maryland Speed yet? I can hardly stand the wait!
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Originally Posted by Blu06R1
Hey Steve, anytime man, you really know your stuff. Happen to receive my order from Maryland Speed yet? I can hardly stand the wait!
Thanks again man!

I got a ton of stuff from them, shoot me an email and when I get back from lunch I'll look it up.
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Email sent, thanks!
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So the monster ones come balanced?
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Originally Posted by SMR#002
So the monster ones come balanced?
Yes, I asked Steve this question directly

Q: "are your twin packages zero balanced from the factory with your flywheels, or do you recommend having them checked before installation?"

A: Steve's Response: "My units are balanced within factory spec which is +/- 12 grams or 1/2 inch ounce. You really have nothing to worry about on balance unless you have a torque tube car, IE a Corvette."
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Originally Posted by Blu06R1
You really have nothing to worry about on balance unless you have a torque tube car, IE a Corvette."
And in these cases we always tell guys to have the balance matched to what they pull from the car. 9/10 times it's great, every once in a while you'll get one that is finicky.
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Thats pretty typical of spec, i got about 8k easy street miles out of mine
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Originally Posted by maroonls1z
Thats pretty typical of spec, i got about 8k easy street miles out of mine
Ridiculous isn't it? Which Spec were your running with how much HP?

I hope this Monster holds up for quite a bit longer! Rated for 700 and I'm only putting ~390 to it.

Although with the lower MOI and lightweight flywheel, I may get the car dyno'd again to see how much HP the twin disc has helped me pick up at the wheels
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Mines been in a year now and 10k miles. I haven't had to adjust the master yet. Great clutch. Our mods are similar, except I've had the heads worked over. That should give you an idea anyway



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