View Poll Results: Which fluid is best for a M12 T56?
Redline D4 ATF
53
8.85%
Royal Purple Syncromax
179
29.88%
GM Syncromesh
154
25.71%
OEM Dexron III ATF
213
35.56%
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Which T56 fluid?
Originally Posted by SpdFrk1990
Someone said if you go back to d3 get all the synthetic out why is that? I thought about trying something like syncromesh or going back to reg dex3 but i dunno think im going to flush the clutch fluid tomorrow first. You know the more you read this thread the more confused you get lol. I did put some pennzoil syncromesh in a 02 civic tonight ill see how he likes that.
Originally Posted by MeentSS02
Not sure on that one...any of the synthetics I've used said they are fully compatible with any type of Dex III oil...synthetic or conventional.
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Originally Posted by OneMeanZ
Is the Pennzoil Synchromesh the same as the GM stuff?
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Originally Posted by dailydriver
As far as anyone can tell, Pennzoil makes it for GM. The only thing that would indicate otherwise is that GM offers a few different variants, whereas Pennzoil only offers one.
If you look on the pennzoil bottle it says
* Meets GM Specification 9985648 and Chrylser Specification MS-9224
* Suitable for use in GM manual transaxles and transmissions requiring GM Part No. 12345349 or 12345577
* Meets GM Specification 9985648 and Chrylser Specification MS-9224
* Suitable for use in GM manual transaxles and transmissions requiring GM Part No. 12345349 or 12345577
Bringing this REALLY long thread back up to the top, I'll put a nice plug in for Torco's ATF (fully synthetic). Not cheap, but some very nice fluid. It shifts better cold and warm (part and WOT when warm) than the Mobil 1 it replaced. Overall, I'm impressed. I flogged on it HARD this morning, and it shifted flawlessly.
Originally Posted by MeentSS02
Bringing this REALLY long thread back up to the top, I'll put a nice plug in for Torco's ATF (fully synthetic). Not cheap, but some very nice fluid. It shifts better cold and warm (part and WOT when warm) than the Mobil 1 it replaced. Overall, I'm impressed. I flogged on it HARD this morning, and it shifted flawlessly.
Just Googled "Torco", and ordered it straight from them. No hassles from them at all, and had it to me in about a week. Just be prepared for it to cost a pretty penny...it was certainly more than I paid for the Torco RGO for my rear end (non-synthetic though for the rear).
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Originally Posted by MeentSS02
Bringing this REALLY long thread back up to the top, I'll put a nice plug in for Torco's ATF (fully synthetic). Not cheap, but some very nice fluid. It shifts better cold and warm (part and WOT when warm) than the Mobil 1 it replaced. Overall, I'm impressed. I flogged on it HARD this morning, and it shifted flawlessly.
Originally Posted by dailydriver
Did you ask if it was hygroscopic or not?? Does it seem better than the Specialty Formulations stuff?? I know your T56 was modded/rebuilt, I wonder how the Torco stuff would be in a stock '00 T56? I guess I'll call them.
I'm assuming it is, but then again, I may be assuming too much. I haven't had the SF stuff in this transmission since break-in, so comparing it to that really wouldn't be doing it any justice. I'd be more than happy to give it another whirl for my next transmission refill though. It worked well in my old T-56, even though it was on its last legs.
Originally Posted by dailydriver
Did you ask if it was hygroscopic or not?? Does it seem better than the Specialty Formulations stuff?? I know your T56 was modded/rebuilt, I wonder how the Torco stuff would be in a stock '00 T56? I guess I'll call them.
Hmmmm...just got done talking to the Torco folks, and they didn't have a good, straight to the point answer. Their main point was that all oils absorb water to an extent, even if they claim to be non-hygroscopic. So I'm not too sure...I guess I don't know enough about oils to form my own opinion here. Thoughts? The Torco comes from Group IV/V base oils, so it has PAOs and some esters in it (and from my research, esters do absorb some water).
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Originally Posted by MeentSS02
Hmmmm...just got done talking to the Torco folks, and they didn't have a good, straight to the point answer. Their main point was that all oils absorb water to an extent, even if they claim to be non-hygroscopic. So I'm not too sure...I guess I don't know enough about oils to form my own opinion here. Thoughts? The Torco comes from Group IV/V base oils, so it has PAOs and some esters in it (and from my research, esters do absorb some water).
