The person that ran the time is a member on this site; JamRWS6. And yes it wasn't "bone stock," but I'd wager it would still have run a 13.0 without the minor mods. The 2.15 60' time lends itself to that theory. Regardless, there still have been a number of 4th gen LS1 F-bodies that hit 12s bone stock.

 

I remeber that also . but a 2.15 60 I say b.s

 

with a few body mods and bolt ons. I think it has potential.

 

Where did I say anything about a 5th gen not being faster than several different 12 sec LS1 Fbody's??? Please, show me.

 

If you'd like to PM him and ask him for a copy of his slip, be my guest. I was there. January 24th, 2003 at Temple Academy Dragway.

 

Think about it for a minute here guys, the stock LS1 times coming anywhere near a 12 sec 1/4 were run on great tracks, w/ prepped surfaces and solid driving. This 13.0 was run on a un-prepped street surface (that looked a little old/worn) and was run in near freezing temps (maybe good for mph, bad for the launch/traction on a street surface). That is an extremely great time to have thrown down under those circumstances IMO.

None of the mainstream mags got anywhere near this time w/ the LS1 Fbodies.


Let us not forget that this "pig" runs the slalom significantly faster than the mags tested the 4th gens, and stops from 60 mph in like 10-15 feet less distance. This car would be mindblowing if it were lighter, but it still manages to throw down mag test numbers that put those laid out by the LS1 Fbodies to shame...

 

OK! The vette is comparing apples to oranges. I mis spoke I was referring to cars that the average person could afford, Not special edition vehicles built by a performance division for a specific demographic. I consider the corvette to be an exotic!

And I clearly said no 12 sec BONE STOCK cars. SFCs and a lid are not stock parts.

The point was to say that the gen 5 is a much better performer than the 4th gen because it weighs more and is still faster.

 

If you think that no 4th gen car ran a 12s pass bone stock, you are a fool.

 

What we're saying is that it wasn't common and probably 1 in 400,000. I would like to know if someone actually ran a 12 second in a 4th gen bone stock. Im talking right off the show room floor. Non touched and stock tires.

 

It still happens...

 

No question about it. Many people have.

 

Post them up

 

MM&FF's Evan Smith did a 12.9 at 107 in a bone stock SS in terrible weather...

 

OK we all know that one but are people saying that the new SS is stuck at 13.0 @110 mph is slower than that? Even that 12.9 isn't actually a kill on the new SS with a run not on a track and crappy driver as well. I'm still trying to see why people think the new SS is So freaking Slow.

 

The point is 1 factory freak does not make all 4th gen 12 sec cars. Add 400 #s and have him run 12s. NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN!

My Point Exactly!

 

thats a stupid comment really, if your gonna add the weight, you cant forget to add the extra hp

i just feel sorry for the little ls3 that got shafted out of the vette to get put into a land yact

 

Can someone show me where 111 mph in the 1/4 mile on a street, stock is slow? Im not getting it at all. Also, the New camaro can out perform the 4th gens on a road course as well.

I think people are jumping the gun abouot not liking it. I didn't like the 98+ 4th gens when they first came out because it looked like a shark. Then I got one and loved it. BTW, I ran 13.2 stock in my 98 and was an auto. not bad.

Also, most 4th Gen LS1's were underated in HP by a long shot.

 

no they werent, besides arent stock ls3's dynoing in the 370-380s?

 

They werent? I seen Z28's rated at 305 pumping out 300+ RWHP. Come on.

I'm also not sure what LS3's put out. Not sure if anyone dynoed a new SS yet.
I would like to know

 

very nice