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iTrader: (1)

and a couple other runs from the other night... EVO was built by AMS and is sporting a 37R @30psi..owner believes it makes 600awhp but hasnt dynoed yet. TA is sporting is an LS6 sporting an MS4 cam and has a 2 stage nitrous setup. He is only spraying the first stage in the run against the EVO which is a 150 shot, TA went 10's @131mph on a 125 shot... enjoy!

http://www.streetfire.net/video/gt37...ta_1997356.htm

00siandrew

What mods does the 300 have?

itsslow98

iTrader: (18)

im guessing spray to get that tank moving against a 340hp camaro.

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iTrader: (1)

i believe I/E but im not sure, i dont think its sprayed, ill have to ask the owner...

bongva

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good runs

smok'nZ

iTrader: (160)

damm how does the camaro only have 340? does he have a stock lq4 with stock manifolds etc?

DiscerningZ32

The EVO owner thinks he is making 600awhp? On pump gas? I think he's a little optimistic. Nice races, camera quality could have been better though.

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iTrader: (1)

yes LQ-4 with an LS6 cam and exhaust... i think hes on LT's but the LQ4 motor low comp.... he is going to boost it eventually

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iTrader: (1)

he is probably right, i dont think any less than 600whp would hang with a 750, just dont think it would happen. He was clearly pulling the bike. And the bike is being driven by a good rider

'Trust'

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That isn't uncommon at all. Pump Gas + Meth, and they can always go E85.

DiscerningZ32

Pump and meth or e85 makes sense. Most mention they're running meth or e85 with their mods. Also, he's untuned (I assume because of the guessing numbers) so I was skeptical about a meth setup.

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iTrader: (1)

Disregard my post about the bike LOL... different Evo... I would guess on pump Its at least 550whp, he is on pump only no Meth. Straight 93

DiscerningZ32

Called it! Take that 'TRUST'

EvilEvo

Well ironically Trust is right as well as are you wrong... the car has been proven to hang dead even with a 600HP supra just on pump gas back in Oct(keep in mind colder temps outside). While Trust is correct with just Pump PLUS meth or e85 most evos accomplish this.
Now this Evo though.. it doesn't use meth just 93. Here in NE FL E85 isn't available unless down in Tampa where they have it at the pump. Its main issue is that its FMIC is to small for the air its pushing. After each run the intake temps jump over 100+ degrees so the engine pulls timing due to detonation.. I've felt the IC after a pull and its hot to the touch. He's recently ordered a larger one so a rematch would be a good measure after installed.

DiscerningZ32

I've only seen a few EVO's break 600whp on 93. It can be done, but it isn't common.
I've seen some evo's break 700whp on enough meth or on E85 though. Hell, here's a 4g63 with over 800whp on E85 http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/dyno...fp-35rhta.html

EvilEvo

Is true it can be done.. where speed lives there are 2... this video is of one.. E85 definitely has is plus side though.. course 2200+cc injectors are needed but cheap race gas FTW

Chaotic Deconstruct

I've been in the DSM game for years and 600awhp is possible on 93 pump alone, but you will have detonation issues from prolonged runs. You lean out to quick up top and knock is inevitable on any 4g63. If this Evo is making 600awhp he should have pulled the CETA on race #2. Evo weighs less than the bird by atleast 200lbs and is supposed to be 30+whp more powerful. For the Evo to hit 600awhp he will need atleast the following if he .is running pure pump and his timing is around -11*. Also 600awhp from an Evo equates to atleast 750awhp at the crank, and thats with a conservative 20% crank to ground loss. So it is a feat if it does produce that much.

Given a fuel rail pressure of 44psi, a BSFC of .65, and a duty cycle of .80 on the injectors your looking at a 1600cc injector minimum. Thats a big injector for the street for any car. As for whoever said this car was untuned, no way. You won't run anything over a 750cc injector in any 4G63 without atleast an injector driver box. Even the low impendence injectors that size will fail to hold a correct idle down low without something regulating them.

Could you tinker with those numbers and say run a 1000cc injector with a crazy *** tune?Sure, but you will be lean before 5500rpms. I've seen 580awhp out of 1000cc with a very nice tune and great conditions. This motor was set up for one dyno run. If this Evo in the posts drives any at all he has a couple maps I'm sure. So I'm saying its possible to do 600awhp out of an Evo, I'm just saying from what I seen in the video, that if that CETA has 570rwhp he should not pull that Evo with a 37r on it, making 600awhp and weighing in at 200lbs less, let alone by what he did.