02 SS vs. 04 Mach 1
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Where talking about real world here ok, not Pinks
Its a drivers race, can anyone explain to him what that means?
And like I have said before I never not once lost to an F-body in my bolt on Cobra. So that either tells me that my car was really fast or it tells me that the F-body drivers in my area can't drive.
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Its a drivers race, can anyone explain to him what that means?
And like I have said before I never not once lost to an F-body in my bolt on Cobra. So that either tells me that my car was really fast or it tells me that the F-body drivers in my area can't drive.
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Originally Posted by germeezy1
Where talking about real world here ok, not Pinks
Its a drivers race, can anyone explain to him what that means?
And like I have said before I never not once lost to an F-body in my bolt on Cobra. So that either tells me that my car was really fast or it tells me that the F-body drivers in my area can't drive.
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Its a drivers race, can anyone explain to him what that means?
And like I have said before I never not once lost to an F-body in my bolt on Cobra. So that either tells me that my car was really fast or it tells me that the F-body drivers in my area can't drive.
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Originally Posted by germeezy1
Where talking about real world here ok, not Pinks
Its a drivers race, can anyone explain to him what that means?
And like I have said before I never not once lost to an F-body in my bolt on Cobra. So that either tells me that my car was really fast or it tells me that the F-body drivers in my area can't drive.
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Its a drivers race, can anyone explain to him what that means?
And like I have said before I never not once lost to an F-body in my bolt on Cobra. So that either tells me that my car was really fast or it tells me that the F-body drivers in my area can't drive.
In fact I only had 1 pass into the 13's which was a 13.7 before I took it to Ford to have them fix the transmission because it had grinded going into 2nd gear at high RPM since day one. As soon as that was fixed I went back to the track and went 13.2 with the car still being stock. Don't ask me how I dropped a half second by doing that-but it did. Maybe the engine was finally broke in, maybe the trans was more damaged than I thought-who knows?
Either way LS1 F-body vs. Mach 1 could go either way. Personally my car never-ever-lost to a bolt-on F-body at any point during my ownership. The car was running strong for how few mods it had for the first 2 years. Then after I went ape **** with mods it was slower than most comparable Mach's. I'd rather it have run 15's bone stock and run 10's now, but oh well.
If you have a bolt-on F-body, don't expect a win over a Mach-just hope for one, because it's far from guaranteed.
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Originally Posted by 1nastyss
I think we should meet halfway so i drag your *** down the street.....bring all your stang buddies, including cobras..it would be fun
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Go see the NA Mach vs TT LS1 thread in this section.
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Originally Posted by 04azuremach
You're going to need more than what you've got right now
Go see the NA Mach vs TT LS1 thread in this section.
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Go see the NA Mach vs TT LS1 thread in this section.
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Haha this ***** turning ugly guys.....SO I retract my statement that an M6 LS1 would win by 3-4 cars, more like 1-2 cars, the cars are close but the LS1 does have the slight advantage, also auto MACHs are dogs compared to the M5's, so an auto mach would be 3-4, M5 prob like a car or 2, so let the thread die guys, even though reading all this **** is hilarious
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Originally Posted by 1nastyss
I read that BS thread a while ago, i dont care waht u and the other ford guys say, that ls1 was not TT not even ST.... AS for u, i have plenty for your ***, im sure its more than what u can handle
If what's in your sig is all you've got, I'd bring my friend's trailer to help pick up your doors after the race.
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Originally Posted by 01FormulaTA
Haha this ***** turning ugly guys.....SO I retract my statement that an M6 LS1 would win by 3-4 cars, more like 1-2 cars, the cars are close but the LS1 does have the slight advantage, also auto MACHs are dogs compared to the M5's, so an auto mach would be 3-4, M5 prob like a car or 2, so let the thread die guys, even though reading all this **** is hilarious ![The Jester](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_jest.gif)
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The fact that you said 3-4 cars originally proves your credibility... that being that you know jack ****.
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Originally Posted by 04azuremach
Um, yeah, it was TT. I even posted 3 links to his user account on 3 different forums. If you think it's not TT then why don't you track him down and expose me for being a liar.
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No one can predict the outcome of a street race, I have beaten cars on the streets that no way, no how should I have beat. I also have got beaten by cars that I looked over at cocky and expected to win. Cars that are even within half a second of one another are considered a drivers race.
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Originally Posted by 1nastyss
I cant believe the ***** on this guy , especially on a LS1 website....Its obvious now that your on here to run your mouth about ls1's , its funny seeing that u dont know jack **** yourself
Please track down 2TurboZ from this forum, then tell me I was not racing a TT LS1.
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Sammy (1nastySS) and I have been friends for a long time and I can personally vouch for his driving skills, he is by far the best at rowing the gears that I have ever seen. I have also seen him pull 2 cars on a 03 cobra that had a pulley, cai,exhaust and tuning....when his SS was only bolt-ons and 4.10's. Should he have won? No, but he did and the cobra driver was dumbfounded and accused him of spraying or being S/C'ed either of which he was not. I think that the argument is pointless, a bonestock 01-02 LS1 fbody 6 speed will beat(w/ equal drivers) a bone stock 5 speed mach 1....not by much but the LS1 will win. Now reverse the situation that you speak of.....take the manual tranny LS1 and put it up to a auto Mach1.....you will see a virtual *** rapping.....done that 1st hand to a white mach1 when all I had was a filter.
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Originally Posted by 1nastyss
Looks like we both are pretty cocky, you obviously havent been beat by a Fbody, and i havent been beat by an sort of stang....this could go on forever...I still aint givin in sucka.....LOL
If you think I'm here to talk **** about LS1's you're dead wrong. I LIKE LS1 F-bodies. Had they made them in 2004 I'd be driving one right now but I wanted a new car. I've spent quite a few hours underneath my girlfriend's Trans AM. I'm here because I'm pissed about the misinformation of Mach 1's in this thread. It's rediculous. Had I thought it was any slower than an F-body when I test drove it I would not have bought it! When you pull the valve covers off the LS1 and start modding the engine beyond bolt-on's the LS1 is a better motor than the 4 valve modular for a power plant-I won't ever deny that. There are a lot less Mach 1's than LS1 F-bodies so how many have you actually seen run at the track and talk to the owner to get a handle on his/her experience?