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Old 04-22-2016, 01:47 PM
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Is it worth building the stock trans & rear end? im planning on pushing around 600 rwhp. I do a lot of freeway driving and a lot of stop and go traffic
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auto or manual?



and 600 rwhp on a 10 bolt? no ******* way lol.
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A4, I'm asking because I was reading chevysuper mag and they said for 3000 can build the 10 bolt to with stand 1000 hp I'll post the link

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and 600 rwhp on a 10 bolt? no ******* way lol.
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Why spend $3k to build a 10-bolt when you can buy a great aftermarket rear, that will hold your 600rwhp just fine, for less? Also, which 10-bolt did they build in the article? A 7.5" or an 8.5"? The old 8.5" is vastly stronger than the 7.5" to begin with, but that's not what came stock in any 4th gen.

Your trans (4L60E) can be built to handle 600rwhp. Several builders now have units handling even more power than that. Some people prefer to go with a 4L80E conversion for even better durability, but it's a much bigger trans (more weight, more power to operate.)
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Originally Posted by ULTIMATEORANGESS
auto or manual?



and 600 rwhp on a 10 bolt? no ******* way lol.

Aye, I've heard of under 500RWHP grenading the rear end like it was an IED.
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Originally Posted by SouthernRex
Aye, I've heard of under 500RWHP grenading the rear end like it was an IED.
under 300rwhp even.
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Originally Posted by ULTIMATEORANGESS
under 300rwhp even.
That would be quite rare with an A4, unless wheel hop was wildly out of control due to completely dead shocks or something.
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6
That would be quite rare with an A4, unless wheel hop was wildly out of control due to completely dead shocks or something.
i agree though mine broke at stockish power with an a4 though i tend to have bad luck.
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All depends on your driving habits for the street, but if you plan on racing it its sooner or later. And dont waste your money trying to build your 10 bolt youll be pissing in the wind.
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I'm just curious where rpm is getting these rears for less than 3k lol. I mean quick performance does but you lose abs. Everywhere else is either right around 3k or above.

But I almost don't see where you could spend 3k on the 10 bolt. Even the articles about a max effort 10 bolt cost like half that.
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On an auto i definitely build my tranny... if a manual upgrade your rear end.

Me being an auto, an upgraded tranny would be my first mod along with a stall.
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Originally Posted by HappySalesman
I'm just curious where rpm is getting these rears for less than 3k lol. I mean quick performance does but you lose abs. Everywhere else is either right around 3k or above.
We have sponsors selling 12-bolts for several hundred less than $3k to start. I really don't see how any 7.5" 10-bolt could be made stronger than this overall.
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Yea your right lol, and it was the 8.5 missed that part
Originally Posted by RPM WS6
Why spend $3k to build a 10-bolt when you can buy a great aftermarket rear, that will hold your 600rwhp just fine, for less? Also, which 10-bolt did they build in the article? A 7.5" or an 8.5"? The old 8.5" is vastly stronger than the 7.5" to begin with, but that's not what came stock in any 4th gen.

Your trans (4L60E) can be built to handle 600rwhp. Several builders now have units handling even more power than that. Some people prefer to go with a 4L80E conversion for even better durability, but it's a much bigger trans (more weight, more power to operate.)
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Do it right the first time. Get a ford 9 inch or strange S60 put in there and for the transmission, performabuilt has some good options.

http://www.performabuilt.com/level-2.html

http://www.midwestchassis.com/fabricated-9-pricing.html

Trans $2200
Converter $400
Rear end $3000
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The guy that built my 4l60e is pushing over 800rwhp in his and has for years. He's built many that are running 8's and 9's in the 1/4 mile. It was $2100 for my build and it will handle what his will.

My buddy and I are both on the same transmission build and both a4 on the stock 10 bolt. I'm only putting down 529rwhp/529rwtq but he's between 650-675rwhp and been running his trans for a couple years and the 10 bolt has lasted the same. I'm going to be swapping motors so I don't destroy my stock one and ill be between 600-650rwhp until next year, then I'll be pushing around 750rwrhp. I will not change one thing and I think as long as I don't launch hard at the track, that the rear will hold with the thicker 2.73's and the t/a girdle cover. My buddy doesn't run at the track very often, but runs on the street a lot with no problems whatsoever.

If your trans guy knows what he's doing and the tuner does with the trans tables, then it will live. He wanted me to bring my by to check the tune out after I got it tuned because he's had tuners kill the trans before. But if you're going to be spending a lot of time at the track, then I would probably worry about the 10 bolt. Auto's aren't as hard on the rear ends and tend to last better, but as stated, there have been some that grenade under little power.
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6
We have sponsors selling 12-bolts for several hundred less than $3k to start. I really don't see how any 7.5" 10-bolt could be made stronger than this overall.
As RPM said, 3k is plenty for a good rear. I myself found a good used 4 channel 9 inch with torque arm, LCAs and panhard bar for 2k. Just search around for a good deal man.
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^^^^Used ones do pop up here and there.
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Go for a good 12 bolt or 9" for peace of mind lol.



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