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Old 10-02-2004 | 04:31 PM
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I have the money to either change my rear to a 12 bolt (moser or strange?) or I can stroke my engine. If anyone has any advice on which one I should do and why I would greatly appreciate it. I am currently running a powerdyne supercharger, hooker long tube headers, flowmaster exhaust (no cats), vig 2800 convertor, hd driveshaft, auburn locking diff, 373 gears, taylor thundervolts, and slp lid. Any input would be greating appreciated.
Old 10-02-2004 | 04:35 PM
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500 hp does you no good if your rear brakes the first time you launch...
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get the 12 bolt my frend...thats the order im going...sept im going tinto the 6 speed route where its even MORE necesary!....BTW what torque arm you have? (off subject)
Old 10-02-2004 | 04:44 PM
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I have a BMR adjustable torque arm. Which 12 bolt is the best and what features should I use (30 or 33, spline vs no spline, etc)?
Old 10-02-2004 | 04:49 PM
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i like moser stuff...
if your hard corp the spool is the strongest, 33 spline, billet aluminum cover
Old 10-02-2004 | 04:52 PM
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where is the best place to buy one for the best price? What is a good price for one of these?
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http://www.ttperformance.net/shop/pr...products_id=20

and not a bad price ttp did me right on my moser 9"
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If you are going to end up running big power, I would throw the BMR torque arm in the trash. And get a 12 bolt first. I'm happy with Moser, but Strange is good, too.
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So long as your rear is in good condition, I don't think your going to break it with the auto very quickly. If you don't go to the strip on et drags alot, then I would get the stroker.. however, if your plan is to make the car a drag vehicle.. always strengthen the rear first. FWIW: We have guys running low 10's over 130mph on the stock rear with automatics. M6's are another story I had my 12 bolt before I even got a cam.

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I do not plan on running this car hard (dragging) more than about 10 times ever. It is just my fun car that I want to be able to blow away some punk mustang when he pulls up next to me. I am still unsure of which one to do. I have only driven my car about 800 miles this entire year. So as you can see it does not get driven much and I have never dragged it. I played once when a friend asked me to get on it from a take off which I sorta did.
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Get the drivetrain to handel the power first and suspension first!!!!
Old 10-03-2004 | 01:27 PM
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yea, i cant speak about ls1 power, but with my old 71 lemans i shelled out the stocker one wheel peel rear at the WORST possible time. never had that car to the track, just a 'fun' car...

with alot of power and a stock rear, it will break sooner or later.
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Given the fact that you are already running a supercharger and those other mods, adding a stroker to that might be a little much with the stock rearend.

If you were nearly stock I'd say go with the stroker, but as it is you might want to think about strengthening up other components before adding more power.
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dont risk getting stuck somewhere because some lucky SOB ran a 10 on the stock rear... 8/10 times a blower by itsself is enough to kill the stock ten bolt.
tens can break on the street, on the track , on the dyno... and the only one thing that always holds true is the day it breaks is the day you dont have the money or time to fix it.... why chance it?
look ask most hard corp racers... you build the car to handle the motor, its cheaper that way, less headaches, more fun.
if you start out with a sick motor, then blow the rear... you have to pay for towing , then fixing, then buying the rear you should have anyways so it dont happen again,
just use your head... take your time... do it right ... do it once
Old 10-03-2004 | 02:58 PM
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Definitely get the Moser 12 Bolt!
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A stroker engine will cost you ALOT more then a 12 bolt. I say go with the 12 bolt cause your going to need one eventually.
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Originally Posted by 2MuchRiceMakesMeSick
A stroker engine will cost you ALOT more then a 12 bolt. I say go with the 12 bolt cause your going to need one eventually.
Nuff said
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Thanks guys for all your input, but I do have one question for you guys. How do you know if you have traction control or not?
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you will have a button on your dash that says asr(for a camaro) and tcs (for a ta)
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Ah who needs traction control?



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