I got SCREWED!!!!
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I got SCREWED!!!!
about 3 months ago, I purchased "out2getu"'s 2000 SS. Stupid of me that the car was in TX and I was in pa and bought the car sight unseen with trust as my eyes. Anyway. to make a long story short, I drove the car less then 1500 miles. I took it out maybe once a week and didnt even get a chance to beat it yet. So im driving down the road, next thing i notice its tapping a lot. I pull it over and shut it down for a few. Start it back up... slowly the tapping stopped and I kept on driving. Happened again about 15minutes later even louder. Sounded like a bottomed out lifter to me. But I took the car to a very highly recomended speed shop and they told me #1. the engine had to be pulled out. #2 it doesnt sound good! After a month of the car sitting at the shop.. This is what the shop says....
Hey Kevin,
George just pulled apart the bottom end. Few things we found that were interesting. The oil pump o-ring was stuck in the bottom of the oil pickup tube (So it was in the main oil pan at one time). I believe that when someone went to install the oil pump the o-ring dropped in the pan and they never bothered to open the pan to get to it or didn't realize this. So you had no o-ring in the oil pump where it belongs. This is more than likely the cause of oil starvation and in turn spun the rod bearing.
George said that it may be possible to resize the rod and it would be fine, but he does notice a few marks on the rod that would not be repairable. His suggestion is to get a new rod. The rods are Oliver I-Beam rods. This piston attached to that rod struck the cylinder head. George scrapped the carbon off to make sure there was no major damage but it definitely got whacked.
Crank needs to be cut .010/.010 because of the bearing.
4 of your pistons are coming in contact with the crank. These 4 pistons need to be notched/clearanced so they don't whack the crank again.
Good news! The cam is fine and so are the lifters.
This is what you will need:
R&R Motor $1000
R&R Top End $500
R&R Bottom End $500
Rebalance Rotating Assembly $300
Clearance 4 Pistons $100
Cut .010/.010 Crank $100
Main Bearings $70
Rod Bearings $70
LS6 Oil Pump $90
Oil Pump O-Ring $3
Oliver I-Beam Rod *I will call for pricing* Probably be around $150-175
Gasket Kit $82
I would recommend also doing a set of cam bearings while we are in there they are $35 installed.
Dyno Tune $450
I will need to get your approval to order the new rod and then get this block over to our machine shop.
George said that whoever put this motor together is a 'shoemaker'. He turned high performance parts into high performance junk pretty quickly.
This is the message I got from one of the best perfomance shops around here. I trust there opinion very highly. I had a very bad feeling about this whole thing. I should of never trusted someone else. So basically....
Hey Kevin,
George just pulled apart the bottom end. Few things we found that were interesting. The oil pump o-ring was stuck in the bottom of the oil pickup tube (So it was in the main oil pan at one time). I believe that when someone went to install the oil pump the o-ring dropped in the pan and they never bothered to open the pan to get to it or didn't realize this. So you had no o-ring in the oil pump where it belongs. This is more than likely the cause of oil starvation and in turn spun the rod bearing.
George said that it may be possible to resize the rod and it would be fine, but he does notice a few marks on the rod that would not be repairable. His suggestion is to get a new rod. The rods are Oliver I-Beam rods. This piston attached to that rod struck the cylinder head. George scrapped the carbon off to make sure there was no major damage but it definitely got whacked.
Crank needs to be cut .010/.010 because of the bearing.
4 of your pistons are coming in contact with the crank. These 4 pistons need to be notched/clearanced so they don't whack the crank again.
Good news! The cam is fine and so are the lifters.
This is what you will need:
R&R Motor $1000
R&R Top End $500
R&R Bottom End $500
Rebalance Rotating Assembly $300
Clearance 4 Pistons $100
Cut .010/.010 Crank $100
Main Bearings $70
Rod Bearings $70
LS6 Oil Pump $90
Oil Pump O-Ring $3
Oliver I-Beam Rod *I will call for pricing* Probably be around $150-175
Gasket Kit $82
I would recommend also doing a set of cam bearings while we are in there they are $35 installed.
Dyno Tune $450
I will need to get your approval to order the new rod and then get this block over to our machine shop.
George said that whoever put this motor together is a 'shoemaker'. He turned high performance parts into high performance junk pretty quickly.
This is the message I got from one of the best perfomance shops around here. I trust there opinion very highly. I had a very bad feeling about this whole thing. I should of never trusted someone else. So basically....
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Well Im glad it's with a good shop now,As for the guy who sold it to you very low ball thing to do to someone if he knew about the problem.Best of luck to you I dont know if the lemon law applys in this case if so I would try and stick it to him.
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the engine is pretty well pushed out. Its a 408 stroker Oliver Ibeam rods, callies crank, diamond pistons. stage 3 ls6 heads, ferrara valves, cams ect... made 505hp when it was last dyno'd I am making a few changes with it now but mostly same stuff. and It will be put back in the right way. Before there was shady **** done. Example..header touching the steering nuckle at idle! so I figure.. fix it once and fix it right..
as far as lemon law. only applies to new cars. but I have a signed buyers order saying that the orignal owner will warrenty the engine for 1 month/1,000 miles. I am thinking about contacting the Attorney General and see what I can do but we will have to see first...
as far as lemon law. only applies to new cars. but I have a signed buyers order saying that the orignal owner will warrenty the engine for 1 month/1,000 miles. I am thinking about contacting the Attorney General and see what I can do but we will have to see first...
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the shops rate is very good 1. because I am pretty good friends with the owner and the people that work there. I am pretty luck that I have good friends. Wish I didnt get so dicked over but life goes on and I will win in the end.
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Originally Posted by Toecutter
Quit your bitching...you bought a USED vehicle. This is the chance we a all take.
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Originally Posted by 2001ws6ramair
the engine is pretty well pushed out. Its a 408 stroker Oliver Ibeam rods, callies crank, diamond pistons. stage 3 ls6 heads, ferrara valves, cams ect... made 505hp when it was last dyno'd I am making a few changes with it now but mostly same stuff. and It will be put back in the right way. Before there was shady **** done. Example..header touching the steering nuckle at idle! so I figure.. fix it once and fix it right..
as far as lemon law. only applies to new cars. but I have a signed buyers order saying that the orignal owner will warrenty the engine for 1 month/1,000 miles. I am thinking about contacting the Attorney General and see what I can do but we will have to see first...
as far as lemon law. only applies to new cars. but I have a signed buyers order saying that the orignal owner will warrenty the engine for 1 month/1,000 miles. I am thinking about contacting the Attorney General and see what I can do but we will have to see first...
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hope it doesnt happen to others like it happned to me. Im just kinda lucky that Im getting a little extra insurance money cause my mustang got hit last month and Im fixing it myself to save some $$$ to try to fill the gap