It's a 2001 LS1 camaro, black with black leather interior, everything on it is stock down to the stereo and exhaust. It has 65k on the clock. They want $12,295 cash for it. I test drove it the other day and it seems to drive ok and it's pretty quick, but I don't really know how an LS1 is supposed to drive. The outside is pretty clean, and the interior is flawless.

 

seems like a good deal to me

 

you can talk them lower than that I would say start at 10, I got my Formula for 6800 with 75k on the clock and a less than clean title. That made a big difference but that is a bit too much.

 

check the underbody... check title too... might be stolen

 

not too bad price. its worth around that much. blue book prices an excellent condition z28 at ~$13500. Just talk them down to $12K if the title is good.

 

That doesn't seem too bad. Try $11,500. Crawl around under it and check for rubber on the underside/back of the car. Trust me, unless you get underneath the car and SCRUB that rubber never goes away.

Do the standard carfax, ask how long they themselves owned it, check the fluid levels and look at them carefully, ask if it eats any oil (not uncommon for PCV system to eat a small-moderate amount of oil), find out what oil/filter they use and how often it's changed, etc. You can tell a lot about how it was maintained by how they answer these questions.

What transmission does it have?
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Edit: If you get it, come back on and start researching mods.

 

After all the checking and you decide to buy it I am sure you will love it.

 

Sounds like a good deal, if everything checks out ok, I'd probably give them the $12295, offer $11500 see what they say, you can always go up.
Even if they say no to $11,500, $12,295 doesn't sound like a bad price

 

Agreed!

$11,500 would be a DEAL, $12,200 isn't too shabby for an 01.

 

I just bought a perfect 2001 Z28 A4, T-Tops, Leather, RS sport package, black on black and loaded with 31K miles on the clock for $12,200. People will deal.

Hell, just last weekend on Long Island I looked at a clean slightly modded '00 SS with leather, A4, Eibach suspension kit and Corvette rims with 47K and a clean title. The dealer wanted $23k, then $19,900. I offered him $12K and he told me absolutely not and that I wanted to steal a car, not buy one. So I told him I offered him what it was worth and then he said "So if I offer you this car for twelve you'll buy it?" You never know unless you offer.

 

I have went back and checked it out since, no burnt rubber at all, its at a car lot by the way. The underneath looks brand new, and it has stock exhaust. The little strip on the drivers door seems to need to be re-glued on. There were a few MINOR scratches on it. When I test drove it it seemed pretty quick at about 2500 RPM, but when it hit 4000 RPM it didn't have the kick that I expected, but it had a very nice kick when floored. Is it supposed to have a real good kick at 4 grand? I don't really know how LS1s are supposed to drive. Its an automatic by the way, if i haven't already mentioned that. The place won't seem to go any lower than $12,500, because he is bent on the fact that the blue book is like 14k, and he was all showing me on KBB.com and **** lol.

 

Even for $12,500 it might be worth it. The LS1 doesn't really kick unless it's on a WOT downshifts. As the RPM's rise it's a pretty smooth pull. Do a 20-25 mph roll. Roll along at like 20-25 mph and then try to put your foot through the floor. It should kick pretty well. Even when I first bought mine I thought it would feel faster than it did. I then ended up going 135 mph when I definately should NOT have been going that fast. That's why you mod.

 

Do a Carfax or have one of us dealer types run a GM VISS on the VIN. I checked one last week for a guy and it turned out to have a "salvage" title.....that means it was either a recovered stolen vehicle or a rebuilt "total". Ya just can't be TOO careful.

 

Carfax is a good tool, but it's not the end all be all of deciding weather or not to buy the car. Infact Texas Toys is selling a salvaged F-body right now that shows up as a salvage in the insurance database, but still has a clean carfax. Carfax's access to information is limited in some states.

 

This makes me sick . Back in 2001 I paid 24,000 for a 2000 T/A! The bastards mine now though . Don't even ask what my car payments were . Insurance full cov is only 75.00 bucks a month now. 172.00 the first 3 years.

 

Yeah, unfortunately Carfax tries to give you a warm fuzzy with their buyback guarantee. If you check it, it is only valid if Carfax missed an actual rebranded title from any DMV and is not based on whether any insurance claim was made on it to indicate that it was wrecked. So, if the car was wrecked and then fixed with no title change it would never show up on Carfax and they would be in the clear.

Your insurance system check is a good system. Now we just need one to log VIN numbers versus racetracks to check out all those cars for sale that have "never been raced or abused...comes with Nitto drag slicks.....original tires and rims included."