Is ticking really that bad?
#1
Is ticking really that bad?
I found a 2001 Z28 A4 with 38,000 miles on it for $12,000. I test drove it the other day, and I don't know whether to be impressed or not. As soon as I started it, I heard ticking, whining, and possibly a little knock.
The little knock sound went away as soon as I started driving it, so I'd guess it was just from the cold engine. The whining sounded like it could have been a belt or something to that effect.
As for the ticking, it could have been any of the common problems. Piston slap, rocker arm noise, bad lifter, spark plugs, exhaust leak. It didn't go away as I drove, which was about 10 minutes, and it definitely got up to temperature. There was also a Check Engine light on, which could have been any of a million possibilities.
Should I even think of buying this car? I don't want to spend all this money and have the thing crap out on me in a couple hundred miles. But aside from the noises and a little rust on the rotors, the car was like a dream. The engine roared like a beast and there were no bad suspension sounds. And the exhaust sounded nice too . Any suggestions?
There was also a little bit of lope to it. Like normal-normal-normal-lope-normal-normal-normal-lope. This is a totally stock car BTW.
The little knock sound went away as soon as I started driving it, so I'd guess it was just from the cold engine. The whining sounded like it could have been a belt or something to that effect.
As for the ticking, it could have been any of the common problems. Piston slap, rocker arm noise, bad lifter, spark plugs, exhaust leak. It didn't go away as I drove, which was about 10 minutes, and it definitely got up to temperature. There was also a Check Engine light on, which could have been any of a million possibilities.
Should I even think of buying this car? I don't want to spend all this money and have the thing crap out on me in a couple hundred miles. But aside from the noises and a little rust on the rotors, the car was like a dream. The engine roared like a beast and there were no bad suspension sounds. And the exhaust sounded nice too . Any suggestions?
There was also a little bit of lope to it. Like normal-normal-normal-lope-normal-normal-normal-lope. This is a totally stock car BTW.
#4
I would definitely get the code read. As far as the lope goes, my car does the exact same thing and just has a few bolt ons. But my car had H/C once before, maybe this car was not stock as well?
#6
This car was in some kind of fleet for a year, then was on a 4 year lease, then came to the dealer it's at now. I looked all over, in, and under the car and everything I saw was stock. They told me that the Check Engine light comes on and off and they're going to try to fix it, and that they're also going to buy me 4 new tires if I do decide to get it.
But yeah, I can say that I'm not 100%. As soon as I heard the ticking I got a little depressed, because I knew that was a bad sound. But then I drove it and didn't want to stop. I just don't want to pass up this deal. If it wasn't for the noise, I'd be butt-raping them buying at this price.
Decisions decisions
But yeah, I can say that I'm not 100%. As soon as I heard the ticking I got a little depressed, because I knew that was a bad sound. But then I drove it and didn't want to stop. I just don't want to pass up this deal. If it wasn't for the noise, I'd be butt-raping them buying at this price.
Decisions decisions
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#8
Originally Posted by Vicious.
This car was in some kind of fleet for a year, then was on a 4 year lease, then came to the dealer it's at now. I looked all over, in, and under the car and everything I saw was stock. They told me that the Check Engine light comes on and off and they're going to try to fix it, and that they're also going to buy me 4 new tires if I do decide to get it.
But yeah, I can say that I'm not 100%. As soon as I heard the ticking I got a little depressed, because I knew that was a bad sound. But then I drove it and didn't want to stop. I just don't want to pass up this deal. If it wasn't for the noise, I'd be butt-raping them buying at this price.
Decisions decisions
But yeah, I can say that I'm not 100%. As soon as I heard the ticking I got a little depressed, because I knew that was a bad sound. But then I drove it and didn't want to stop. I just don't want to pass up this deal. If it wasn't for the noise, I'd be butt-raping them buying at this price.
Decisions decisions
#11
May not be anything serious, but I would not touch a "fleet" Z28. Even if the engine is fine for now, you know that thing has been seriously abused. IMO you should stay clear.
BTW, what organization gets Z28s for fleet vehicles, 'cause I want to work there.
BTW, what organization gets Z28s for fleet vehicles, 'cause I want to work there.
#13
sounds VERY MUCH!!! Like rod knock to me. Piston slap takes a minute or two, rod knock about 10-20 seconds to dissipate. DO NOT BUY IMHO!!! (Unless you will be re-doing the motor, then just buy a 98 in good physical shape for less $).
#14
Originally Posted by Stanger88
sounds VERY MUCH!!! Like rod knock to me. Piston slap takes a minute or two, rod knock about 10-20 seconds to dissipate. DO NOT BUY IMHO!!! (Unless you will be re-doing the motor, then just buy a 98 in good physical shape for less $).
I would be willing to put money on it that one of the fleet drivers beat the **** out of it and over-revved it, bending a pushrod or two. And I would furthermore bet the SES light is for a misfire or two.
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#16
OK, sounds like I'll be passing on this one then. The fleet thing was a little scary, but you all know how that "lust" thing works. I'll be good and keep looking. Thanks everybody.
#19
LS1's can be quite noise for the first few minutes on start up though. I know mine tends to tick for the first few minutes and then goes away, something I have heard many LS1's do. My car has 30k babied miles too, no burnouts or anything.
From some I have heard that it's the tensioners and have also been told it's the piston and ring design that offers "a little" bit of slap when their cold that goes away once the motors are warm.
Food for thought
From some I have heard that it's the tensioners and have also been told it's the piston and ring design that offers "a little" bit of slap when their cold that goes away once the motors are warm.
Food for thought