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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Flamin Raven
Can you use a Nano 15# kit to push a smaller 10lb n2o bottle or does it strictly have to be used with a 15lb n2o bottle? It my understanding it should work just fine except you'd essentially be wasting the extra air in the nano bottle
The 3000psi system you can use on 10# or 15# systems. The 4500psi system is strict 10 to 15# bottles. The have to be matched.
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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Ruckus46Gt
just got mine bottle is at 2500psi (3k kit). Should i fill it the extra 500 or will i be fine (bottle opened up while turning into a parking lot...didnt have it strapped down). Also does it matter if you open up the nano then the nitrous bottle or should the nitrous bottle be opened then the nano? Not sure if it matters or not
I would have it filled to 3000psi. Normally they will fill it to 3200psi so that when it cools it will be at 3000psi. Let me know if you need help finding a source to fill it for you.

Also if anyone else needs help finding a source for filling your NANO system let me know. (pm me your address)

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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 09:14 PM
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i filled it back to 3000 before I used it. Question, I got scared today and pulled the bottle after 7 runs figured I was damn close and didnt want to risk it in the semi's. Anyways now lets say you have 2 lbs of nitrous back should the nitrous bottle be completely emptied then refilled since there is nitrogen in it also?
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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 09:45 PM
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Depending on the shot and length of run you will see performance down to the last 1/2 pound.
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 12:13 PM
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Quick question. I have heard people talk about the 3000psi kit and the 4500psi kit. how can you tell the difference?
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Shoulder Shaker
Quick question. I have heard people talk about the 3000psi kit and the 4500psi kit. how can you tell the difference?
It is engraved on the side of the regulator at the top of the bottle. From what I can tell, you need the 4500psi kit if you're spraying over a 250 shot.
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Brad@NANO Direct
Depending on the shot and length of run you will see performance down to the last 1/2 pound.
doesn't the pick up tube have to be all the way down to be able to use all but the last .5lbs?, on my bottle the tube is about 1.5" -+ .5. so i end up with about 3lbs left. which is usually when the car starts going rich.
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 09:19 PM
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Is it a 10# or 15# bottle? Whos nitrous bottle and valve? Thanks
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 10:44 PM
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As a 14 year paintball airsmith i though i'd chime in on a few of these

Originally Posted by RedTtop6spd
It requires high pressure air (HPA) at 3000-4500psi, not low pressure air (LPA) which is the only thing your compressor at home can do. There's no way to modify something that puts out only 150psi to start putting out 4500psi.
Originally Posted by myfast70
I think you can get a mother bottle and fill you NANO bottle like you would a nitrous bottle (minus the liquid), so I've been told by a paintball guy.
This is correct, you will not be able to use your home air compresser to fill up to 3k psi, it just wont happen, if you are planning on using 2+ nitrous bottle in a day and need to refill your NANO bottle you will need 2+ SCUBA tanks on hand so you can waterfall fill (start with one SCUBA and move to the next untill you are topped off) untill you are at 3k psi, if you are filling to 4.5k you need a different fill tank.



Originally Posted by 02blackbeauty19
Or nitrogen Correct? I was wondering about the paintball store thing because you are not supposed to use CO2 but thats what is in paintball tanks correct?
Paintbal started using HPA (High Pressure Air) a long time ago, most shops will fill HPA

Originally Posted by Brad@NANO Direct
The Co2 paintball equipment uses lower pressures than what the NANO uses. They use compressed air or nitrogen for the 3000psi up product. It depends on what paintball shop your at, whether they use compressed air or nitrogen.

Compressed air is 78% nitrogen. So either or works fine.
Correct, CO2 typically runs at 750-850 psi (obviously too low) depending on bottle temp and OAT. And by the way most people working at paintball shops are used to every kid coming in asking for "nitro" fills, even though most places fill with just compressed air, unless you know what to look for and check the fill tank you are probably getting compressed air instead of nitrogen enriched, even if they tell you otherwise, they just dont know any better, and the shop owners aren't gonna waste money on "Nitro"

Originally Posted by AgFormula02
I fill mine at a local paint ball arena. They have a 3000 and a 4500 PSI fill station.
When filling with air, the bottle gets hot and it is hard to get a full fill. (Natural side effect of compression)
I usually fill it to 4000, then let it sit fo a few minutes, and get the last 500 psi in.
BTW, when using this system, you have to keep track of your nitrous consumption very carefully. You can't judge how much nitrous you have based on your nitrous pressure gauge.
You have to count passes per bottle, or weight of bottle.
The person filling you bottle either used crappy equipment, was new, or was lazy, if they fill slow, this wont happen. Or if you watch someone fill a SCUBA tank they typically put it in a bucket of water to absorb the heat.

EVERYONE MAKE SURE YOUR NANO BOTTLE IS AT ROOM TEMP BEFORE LEAVING THE FILL SHOP OR ELSE YOU WILL LOSE PRESSURE!!!


if they fill it fast it will heat up, and when it cools it WILL lose pressure, that is physics

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I have it like this.. This is an older picture and its more straight up now. I had to make my own bracket. I have no problems with the cover.

I'm glad to see that, that is exactally how i'm planning on doing mine in the 94, the 72 is running sideways
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Originally Posted by Ruckus46Gt
i filled it back to 3000 before I used it. Question, I got scared today and pulled the bottle after 7 runs figured I was damn close and didnt want to risk it in the semi's. Anyways now lets say you have 2 lbs of nitrous back should the nitrous bottle be completely emptied then refilled since there is nitrogen in it also?
as we discussed on the other site, in order to do a partial fill you can turn the n2o bottle upside down and open the valve, the air will bleed out first then you will know when you start hitting the nitrous.

Originally Posted by jetblast
doesn't the pick up tube have to be all the way down to be able to use all but the last .5lbs?, on my bottle the tube is about 1.5" -+ .5. so i end up with about 3lbs left. which is usually when the car starts going rich.
Yeah i'd agree with that as well, the compressed air is pushing the liquid down so once it gets under the tube it wont be able to pick up any more, but how much depends on the siphon tube used, and the angle of the bottle mounting
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 07:03 AM
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i have a 15# bottle and the valve is an nx brand. if my syphon tubes is extended closer to the bottom you run the risk of sucking up debris, is it true or not? i don't mind leaving 3lbs. behind. one more ?, is there a difference in the function of the nano when filling with nitrogen or compressed air?
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 08:56 PM
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So...I'm new to this....with the Nano setup... my 100 shot will be the same from start to end of the run? Meaning I could probably squeeze in a tenth or 2 to my ET?
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 09:52 PM
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What all has to be purchased? Just the regulator kit?
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 07:35 AM
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The kits that are posted come complete with everything you need.
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 04:34 PM
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Ok, here is a question that might be weird... I'm trying to understand everything before I make a big jump into a product.


Scenario.

Nitrous bottle pressure is at 800.
Nano bottle is at 4500.

You want 200psi more in your n2o bottle, so would it just subtract from the Nano that would then be left with 4300psi?
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 02:20 PM
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so what are options for nano filling at the track. Scuba tank with the adapter orjust buy another nano bottle itself? (3000psi bottle)
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 02:49 PM
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yea Ruckuss, the scuba tanks with an adapter is a cheap easy way to go about refilling at the track, incase you are going to run multiple bottles
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btw if you type in "paintball scuba fill" on ebay there are a top there for about $15-30
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Originally Posted by evilbeef54
btw if you type in "paintball scuba fill" on ebay there are a top there for about $15-30
yea what size suba tank would be ideal and any word where to get one for cheap
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i really like what i see here. been doing alot of reading on nano and had no idea. im thinking i may want to go this route and add to my 200 shot
but one thing i dont understand is why a small piggy back bottle, and a tiny line cost the same as my entire plate kit. (no trying to dog at all. just curious if i missed something)
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