150 shot on top of a H/C + Stock bottom end car?
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1999 Camaro SS M6 hard life with 85000 miles. 100% stock short block. has patriot small valve 243 heads, t-rex cam, old flp headers, edelbrock victor jr with fuel injection, intake elbow, and 90mm NW. fuel is a braided line from connection on fender wall to driver fuel rail, loops to back driver fuel rail to passenger back fuel rail, and front passenger fuel rail to gauge, fuel sileniod, and 42 pound green tops. run a wilson manifold carb nitrous plate under intake elbow. thru a 9" with spool made 438.1/391.3 to the ground on motor. 150 shot made 608.4/634.6 to the ground.
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This is a 2001 WS6. Complete BMR tubular front end, Strange race brakes, Front and Rear and lite weight manual master cylinder, ABS delete block, QA1s all four corners, Ford 8.8 with 33-spline axles,spool and 3.73s, Complete BMR Race Rear Susp. TA, Wolf Anti-Roll Bar, Coan Billet Alum. Flexplate, lite-weight Coan TH350, TB, RMVB, 5000 stall, 3 1/2 steel Nitrous driveshaft, Cheetah SCS Shifter, Quick Release steering wheel, Corbeau seats and belts,Dynatech LTs, Bullet, F13, Reworked PP stage II 5.3s,(301@.600) 918s, 90mm LSX, NWs 90mm TB, Meziere EWP, 42 lb. injectors, Racetronics fuel pump, Harris Speed Works stand alone fuel system, Drag Lites, M/T 275/60/15DRs, lots of weight reduction, 3150 with driver. Best ET-10.79@123mph, with a 1.49-60ft, All-Motor. Makes 407RWHP-356RWTQ. Car makes 538/475 on a NX-150 shot and has been a 9.97@132mph, 1.44 60'. All work done by RPM.The car has bout 30,000 miles on it. Weight reduction is truly your friend.
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Another surging problem w/questions
I did a search, but I'm still concerned. I've been having this problem intermittently for about two years.
I'll try to give as much info as possible. I made a pass at the track on the bottle and it surged on the top end, right after 3rd gear. The whole pass was logged on my wideband. A/F started out at around 12.2 and dropped to around 11.4 after the pass. Bottle psi was at 1050, but it dropped to 1000 after the pass. This was on a nx 150 wet shot using 62n 31f jets. I leaned the fuel I side a little. No kink in the lines, grounds are tight and clean and the nitrous filter was clean. TR6 plugs gapped at .033. Racetronix hotwire kit. Fuel filter changed a few thousand miles ago. Timing set at 20* for the bottle with a flip of a switch.
If the car wasn't getting enough fuel, wouldn't it show up on the wideband and lean out? Could a 11.4 A/F be too rich causing a surge? Bigger feed line?
I'll try to give as much info as possible. I made a pass at the track on the bottle and it surged on the top end, right after 3rd gear. The whole pass was logged on my wideband. A/F started out at around 12.2 and dropped to around 11.4 after the pass. Bottle psi was at 1050, but it dropped to 1000 after the pass. This was on a nx 150 wet shot using 62n 31f jets. I leaned the fuel I side a little. No kink in the lines, grounds are tight and clean and the nitrous filter was clean. TR6 plugs gapped at .033. Racetronix hotwire kit. Fuel filter changed a few thousand miles ago. Timing set at 20* for the bottle with a flip of a switch.
If the car wasn't getting enough fuel, wouldn't it show up on the wideband and lean out? Could a 11.4 A/F be too rich causing a surge? Bigger feed line?
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1999 Camaro SS M6 hard life with 85000 miles. 100% stock short block. has patriot small valve 243 heads, t-rex cam, old flp headers, edelbrock victor jr with fuel injection, intake elbow, and 90mm NW. fuel is a braided line from connection on fender wall to driver fuel rail, loops to back driver fuel rail to passenger back fuel rail, and front passenger fuel rail to gauge, fuel sileniod, and 42 pound green tops. run a wilson manifold carb nitrous plate under intake elbow. thru a 9" with spool made 438.1/391.3 to the ground on motor. 150 shot made 608.4/634.6 to the ground.
runs runs all day any day
runs runs all day any day
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we have plenty of cars running over 650rwhp for several years, one of my own cars included. you are on borrowed time, there is no doubt about it, but with the right tune it can last awhile
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a stock bottom end can hold the 150 shot for a while with the right tune. The question then becomes will your tranny hold up? will your rear hold up? will your driveshaft last? will your clutch hold. A 150 shot on a stock car can break a lot of stuff. Even on a car that isn't stock it can break stuff. I blew the gears apart in my 12 bolt that has a spool and 4.33 gears.
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a stock bottom end can hold the 150 shot for a while with the right tune. The question then becomes will your tranny hold up? will your rear hold up? will your driveshaft last? will your clutch hold. A 150 shot on a stock car can break a lot of stuff. Even on a car that isn't stock it can break stuff. I blew the gears apart in my 12 bolt that has a spool and 4.33 gears.
Yeah I am going to address the rear end issue, I have actually been looking at the 9" from Midwest Chassis, looks like a great piece. Driveshaft will come as well. For the tranny I have heard that they are pretty durable. I mean I know that it will have to be addressed but I would assume the rear would be the next weak link. Clutch is going to be installed, Textralia OZ700.
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TUNE TUNE TUNE
I have talked to lots of people about this issue (running a LE2 kit and over 400RWHP and plan on spraying the 150 shot) and everyone I have talked to says to just make sure it has a good tune. A good tuned car will last awhile, I just hope it lasts until the 383 is done.
I have talked to lots of people about this issue (running a LE2 kit and over 400RWHP and plan on spraying the 150 shot) and everyone I have talked to says to just make sure it has a good tune. A good tuned car will last awhile, I just hope it lasts until the 383 is done.
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a stock bottom end can hold the 150 shot for a while with the right tune. The question then becomes will your tranny hold up? will your rear hold up? will your driveshaft last? will your clutch hold. A 150 shot on a stock car can break a lot of stuff. Even on a car that isn't stock it can break stuff. I blew the gears apart in my 12 bolt that has a spool and 4.33 gears.
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like others have said you are on borrowed time. i have about 15 hours of tuning time by a professional tuner but dont drive everywhere on spray. when i ran my first 10 second pass my exgirlfriend broke her car and we used the trailer for her car. i drove my car 40 miles to get home the way it sat at the track. TUNE is the biggest thing.