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Old 04-21-2009, 08:04 PM
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Since the heads have been on, my care has gone from a street car to a more race oriented car. I had no real idea the effect torco had on things. Everything is orange. Here are a couple pics. the head has been on the bench for about 18 hours, so everything should be somewhat dry. Can someone tell me WTF is up with the bottom of the combustion chambers.





Sorry for the crappy iphone pics. If someone thinks there's something serious going on, I can take some higher res stuff.
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ha looks pretty cool
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looks like some additive they put in their fuel. Did it hurt performance any?
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There's no visible damage, and this is the additive stuff not the fuel. All of the forged pistons look the same.
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From what I understand that it will change the burn rate of the fuel from what your tune is set at.. Also are you running Cats??
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thats weird, like was said earlier it could have something to do with the additive and the color thats created due to the chemical reaction between the fuel,additive and spark. just a guess. ive used it before but ive never torn heads off to view the combustion chamber after using it either.
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fwiw I know people who run torco and it does turn their plugs a kinda rust orange color, dont know about the heads but I do know when they stop running torco for awhile the plugs go back to normal color...
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Originally Posted by vet346
From what I understand that it will change the burn rate of the fuel from what your tune is set at.. Also are you running Cats??
No cats. I run 18" collectors off the headers and then mufflers.

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thats weird, like was said earlier it could have something to do with the additive and the color thats created due to the chemical reaction between the fuel,additive and spark. just a guess. ive used it before but ive never torn heads off to view the combustion chamber after using it either.
I figured most people hadn't pulled heads off after running this stuff. We only have 90 octane up here so I have to run something to get it up a little for street cruising.

It seems to clean up fairly well with a little MEK. Also, the stuff at the bottom of the combustion chamber is definately some oily gunk. Any thoughts?
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Hard to tell but the black almost looks like soft carbon deposits, there is a name for it but I'm drawing a blank. I have no idea why it would be only in that spot though, and I have never seen it form inside the combustion chamber.

You sure it's not coolant that soaked in to the deposits already in there when you removed the heads?
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It was definately like grease--oil based. It cleans right off too. I was kind of thinking the coolant thing too, but #5 had no stuff at the bottom. I looked over the pistons, and there aren't any signs of cracked/broken ringlands. I'm going to pull the other side and see what it looks like.
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Looks like you may be getting some oil in the combustion chamber.... not good for a N20 motor. Do you have a vacume pump?
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Originally Posted by ATVracr
Looks like you may be getting some oil in the combustion chamber.... not good for a N20 motor. Do you have a vacume pump?
No vacuum pump. I've been having oil issues with that bank. The head gasket is trashed, but it didn't act like it had a blown gasket at all.
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Originally Posted by jmill96Z
No vacuum pump. I've been having oil issues with that bank. The head gasket is trashed, but it didn't act like it had a blown gasket at all.
What gaskets? studs? what do you torque them to?

It will lift them for a second and reseal sometimes (not reseal like it fixes itself but enough to not have a issue N/A)

Wih a big cam I always had oil in the intake until I put the vacume pump on it.
Oil in the chamber will cause detonation.
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check your fuel filter and lines also bet they are red and possibely clogged. I know a lot of Mustang guys that used that stuff until they had nothing but issues rust color clogged fuel filters and spark issues
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Yep lots of Cobra guys run this stuff and it turns plugs orange. Don't know why it would hurt anything tho...
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Originally Posted by ATVracr
What gaskets? studs? what do you torque them to?

It will lift them for a second and reseal sometimes (not reseal like it fixes itself but enough to not have a issue N/A)

Wih a big cam I always had oil in the intake until I put the vacume pump on it.
Oil in the chamber will cause detonation.
To be completely honest, I have no clue what they were torqued to. This is the first time I've had the heads off. The studs are the ARP's with the internal wrenching on the stud. The gasket part # is 57/HO53

I can see what you're saying on the resealing. The thing did fine on motor, and wouldn't push a drop of water. I'm just happy I pulled them before the season started. That would have made for a shitty weekend.
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from what i have been told by local guys who use that stuff religiously its fine, that rust color is more of a coating to resist hot spots and detonation. i run that stuff every so often, and have not had a problem, besides brown exhaust tips and plugs,
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[QUOTE=camarojunky74;11530828] that rust color is more of a coating to resist hot spots and detonation.QUOTE]


WTF ...

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sorry, let me reprhase my words, the brown color is whats left from the acclerent used to resist detonation, it wont harm anything and will go away after a few tanks of regular race fuel or 91.
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Made sense that time


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