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Old Aug 11, 2006 | 11:24 PM
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I am currently running a 150shot. I am wanting to up it to a 200 shot. I am running the basic nx efi wet kit. What would I need to do to run the 200 shot.

I know I will need to change out the jets (which one would I need). And will need to pull some timing. But what else would I need to do this?
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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 08:29 AM
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Make sure your fuel system is up to the task, colder plugs, a little timing pulled, correct jetting and an SHO line from Nitro Dave.
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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 08:31 AM
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Dont need a SHO line.
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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 06:46 PM
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Just finished a car a few minutes ago. Single nozzle kit, swaped out the -4 feed line for a -6 one and upgraded the -3 nozzle to solenoid lines to -4 ones. We couldn't get close to 200 rwhp with out the line upgrades.

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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 07:02 PM
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built motor I hope..
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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackZ28629
built motor I hope..


There are plenty that hit 200+ on the stock motor.
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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackZ28629
built motor I hope..
No, stock bottom end. But my rings are going. SO once is blows, it's time to upgrade!
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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 09:43 PM
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250 shot here i run hsw's stand alone fuel system just to be safe
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Originally Posted by Matt@HSW
Just finished a car a few minutes ago. Single nozzle kit, swaped out the -4 feed line for a -6 one and upgraded the -3 nozzle to solenoid lines to -4 ones. We couldn't get close to 200 rwhp with out the line upgrades.

Matt
thats strange.. i had a single nozzle kit with a -4 feed and -3 to the nozzle and i got 193rwhp out of my 200 hit..
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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackZ28629
built motor I hope..

uh oh guys we have another winner.. his buddys girlfriends dad uncles cousin prob used to run a speed shop and blew his honda up with a 125 shot..


so Mr black Z28 guy i guess my motor should be done since i've gone over 200 on the stock **** right??

asshats i swear.. make a post with no supporting information..

Mike
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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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stock bottom end here as well with no problems
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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 10:25 AM
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all lucky bastards...i wish i had a ls1...lt1 only hit it with a 150...but are all yall hittin 200+ in a single shot? thats a big tq spike, i was goana try to run a 175 in a 2 stage so my poor lt1 might hold it
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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 10:44 AM
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I do 200 with an rpm based progressive... I am on the full 200 by 4800. I am moving up to the 250 soon.
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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 01:40 PM
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To truly answer this question there is some other information that is needed to give a more accurate answer. What fuel pump/system are you using? If stock and a fairly high mileage car a fuel pump up grade could help the longevity of the motor. If a stock rear then a progressive unit would be a rear end saver as well. What convertor? Again if stock then a progressive unit would be a drivetrain saver. It is not that one cannot spray a straight 200 shot without the above mentioined items but more-so; for how long? A good fuel pump and progressive unit would certainly help extend the amount of time that you can spray this amount of N2O before the 200-hp N2O gremlins start to work on your stuff.

The other issue is timing and octane. I would start out at about 18-degrees from about 3200-rpm and up while data logging and add timing a degree or two at a time so long as there is no knock retard. I usually put 4 gallons of 93 octane and then 3 gallons of 110 octane with a total of 23 degrees of total timing at this point. I use an FJO progressive controller, TCI SSF tightened up to 3400 and a Racetonix fuel pump. Hope this rambling helps.

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PS- I use a plate system but if you scroll through the jet list sticky at the top you may find some useful information.
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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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200 pills w/o a progressive controller. No problems.
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Originally Posted by Big Geek
To truly answer this question there is some other information that is needed to give a more accurate answer. What fuel pump/system are you using? If stock and a fairly high mileage car a fuel pump up grade could help the longevity of the motor. If a stock rear then a progressive unit would be a rear end saver as well. What convertor? Again if stock then a progressive unit would be a drivetrain saver. It is not that one cannot spray a straight 200 shot without the above mentioined items but more-so; for how long? A good fuel pump and progressive unit would certainly help extend the amount of time that you can spray this amount of N2O before the 200-hp N2O gremlins start to work on your stuff.

The other issue is timing and octane. I would start out at about 18-degrees from about 3200-rpm and up while data logging and add timing a degree or two at a time so long as there is no knock retard. I usually put 4 gallons of 93 octane and then 3 gallons of 110 octane with a total of 23 degrees of total timing at this point. I use an FJO progressive controller, TCI SSF tightened up to 3400 and a Racetonix fuel pump. Hope this rambling helps.

Jim C.

PS- I use a plate system but if you scroll through the jet list sticky at the top you may find some useful information.

I have a walbro intake pump, (fast rails and 42lb injectors) But the n2o kit is a wet kit. I also have a moser 12bolt, 31spline, 3.73. I am also running a yank ss4000 stall (running the t-rex cam). I know it is not a good cam for the bottle, but I want to see what see does on it. I am also running on a window switch 3000-6000 (Going to up the pill to 6800). I also run 100 octane at the track.
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Old Aug 14, 2006 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by CrawlinWS6
I have a walbro intake pump, (fast rails and 42lb injectors) But the n2o kit is a wet kit. I also have a moser 12bolt, 31spline, 3.73. I am also running a yank ss4000 stall (running the t-rex cam). I know it is not a good cam for the bottle, but I want to see what see does on it. I am also running on a window switch 3000-6000 (Going to up the pill to 6800). I also run 100 octane at the track.
Gotcha, I personally would try not to hit it with too much out of the hole. I would limit it to 100-125 or so to keep from blowing through the convertor and see how it responds at first. I would also make sure to keep the shift points in the peak TQ range while on the gas. Typically most shift 5-700 RPM lower than the camshafts peak RPM range. I would not rule out the camshaft yet, it may just surpise you. I would venture to say that at 100-octane and that much camshaft you should be fine but again I would make sure to ease into the timing (3200-RPM and up.) while monitoring your knock retard if possible. You will probably find that you can run upwards of 22-23 degrees depending on the elevation of your track but I would make sure to check everything slowly first. There is no need to make it go BOOM unless you have to. From the description of your fuel system you will be fine. Good luck slim and let us know how it all turns out. Keep us posted!!!

Jim C.
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Thanks for the inpute
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Can anyone state what pills to use to get the 200hp hit. I want to try this as well but can't find the pill combination for 200. Oh yeah it a NX single nozzle efi ket.
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shoulder shaker, check the sticky at the top of the forum.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/removed-locked-thread-graveyard/441077-master-jet-list.html
It'll tell you everything you need along with the math equation to figure out what you need if it's not listed
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