camaro98z28

I see 2 vendors that I would like to try. NOS and Nitrous Dave. They seem to have good plates that I can use to convert mine from a Fogger Nozzel to a plate.

I see that NOS varies from 150hp to 250 hp and ND goes from 75hp to 150hp and is much more.

I want to go 175 to 200 so would ND's plate be able to push 200?

Any Dyno's for both of these plate systems?

00Vette

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Dave's wet plate system for the stock LS1 TB is the system I have and its capable of spraying up to 175shot. The line in the kit that goes from the nitrous noid to the plate itself is the reason you can only spray up to 175 shot. The kit comes with 50-200hp jets.

I'm currently in the works of upgrading to a bigger line so I can run the 200hp jets.

I love that system so far. It looks great and Dave has been very helpful with the install and everything from the purchase to way after the install. I would recommend no other! JMO!!

Beer99C5

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Dave sells both of those

Another happy Nitrous Outlet LS1 Plate system user here.

Search for my Nitrous Outlet Bench flow test Vid...

Beer

camaro98z28

So what lines would I have to change to get a 175 or 200 shot? What size?

00Vette

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I'm not sure yet.......I'll let you know when I buy it. Its only the one line........from what I remember Dave telling me I only have to get the one bigger line.

Dave told me in one of my threads a couple days ago (or maybe longer), but I'll know after I get him on the phone.

Beer99C5

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Look at his site for "Race hose" its black, not the braided SS hose. Race hose is a tad more expensive, but I am sure he would substitute it in a kit if requested, and adjust the price as needed. I don't think he said you needed to upgrade to a bigger hose (-6). You should have a -4 hose, and from what I understood in that post, you would just run the -4 race hose instead of your -4 SS hose. Call or shoot Dave a PM to be sure.

Dave also said it applied only to the Nitrous side, and not the fuel side of the hoses. So your looking at 14' or so mainline, then whatever length to from the Nitrous Noid to the nozzle.

00Vette

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You are correct. However the only hose I have that will fit the fittings from the nitrous noid to the plate is the one currently on there. And if I remember correctly its the incorrect size to run more than 175hp shot.

Like you suggested I'll send him a PM. He has to fix my purge noid anyway, so I figure I can just have him send the new line when he sends my noid back.

I should have my cage started and hopefully finished by then............and ready for 10 second runs.


Camaro98z28, just send Dave a PM like I am. He's good about returning them! I bet he'll post up in this thread before too long. And I'll post up what he tells me when I find out.

Robert56

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The hose in question is a -3 or 3an hose, and it just needs to be replaced with a -4/4an hose. Additionaly, you'll need a -3 fitting on one end and a -4 on the other, and up size the -3 fitting in the noid to -4. Dave has these as the SHO line, or you can have one made custom to suit your needs. Most of the vendors on site can help in this regard.
Robert

SSwanner

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^^^^ what he said. i have the SHO hose on my car (thanks dave!) its the ss line running from the n2o silenoid to the nozzle/plate. basic kits come with -3an lines, the SHO hose is a -4an line with a -3an fitting on the nozzle/plate side to hold the jets. your -4an feedline (long 14'ish line from bottle) is fine, it will support a good 300 shot before you need to even think about that one.

camaro98z28

Thanks. Any Dynos yet with the plate system yet?

00Vette

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I don't have any other lines with the right size fittings. So I'm going to need this new line. I don't need it to be longer than one foot. 12" should be more than enough for my system. The noids are bolted to the noid bracket which is bolted to the passanger side cylinder head. So the space to the plate is short.

When I looked up on the Nitrous Outlet website it said the hose was 24" (2 feet), that is way too long. I'm going to need Dave to cut that line down to size for me.

So for the record!!!! This simple swapping of the line from the nitrous noid to my plate will allow me to spray up to a 300hp shot of nitrous???

SSwanner

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yup, it makes a huge difference! just give dave a call, i'm sure he can/will make you up a custom line for your app

camaro98z28

I hit 11.5 at 122 with a Stock engine and Heads with a TR 220 cam and a 100 shot and a stock stall. Think I can hit 10's with my new setup and the plate system?

Beer99C5

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So its just the hose from the N2O noid to the nozzle/plate? Thats not so bad!

What if your hardlined like I am with 3/16" stainless? Any idea of its HP limit?

I don't plan on more than 150 (which we already tested), just curious.

00Vette

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If your hardlined like you are, I think your good to the limit of the plate which is 200hp. Dave said some of his customers have sprayed 250hp out of it, but he doesn't recommend it. I am going to stick with the 200hp shot till I can afford to build my motor up. Then I'll toss on some kind of direct port system.

Anyway, I ordered the line and necessary fitting today and it was pretty cheap. All together shipped I think it was like $35-$40 and now I can spray 200hp shot.

I'm really excited! Unfortunately I have been told that 5-6 full 1/4 passes is all I'll get out of the 10lb bottle and that will go quick. I asked the boss (aka wife) if I can get another bottle and got the "you don't need another bottle! You can wait till next year". So I think I'll just put it on hold and make due with what I got.

That means that my bracket races may have to be run on motor only. Thank god for time only runs and test and tune sessions.

I attached the part numbers that Dave gave me for the bigger line and fitting so everyone else will know exactly what they need to get to run a 200hp shot like I plan.

THe SHO hose is the 10124 and the 16109 is a new fitting for the solenoid

Beer99C5

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Men's Rule #1 (Women use it on us too from time to time... )
"Its easier to ask forgiveness than permission..."

Of course you are getting a cage (so that is a great compromise IMHO), my wife has drawn the line at absolutely no Black Deck Stripes on the hood (I think they would look AWESOME), and absolutely no cage on it (means one run a year and the boot from the track)...

Beer

oange ss

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are the plates rwhp or fwhp rated ?

Beer99C5

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Dave posted in one of 00Vette's previous threads that they are RWHP rated.

00Vette

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Oh man!!! That sucks. You need a cage to run legally.

I told my wife that I needed one or I couldn't race at the track! She actually prefered I got the cage for safety measure. If I could rationalize some how that the extra 10lb bottle was for safety reasons, she'd probably let me get one.

From what Dave told me, the plate kit is rated to the wheels. I haven't had it dyno'd with a full bottle, so I don't know from experience. I need to find out though........however I beleive Dave! He's a real good guy. I know he wouldn't say it was rated at the wheels if it wasn't.

99FormulaWs6

I have the NOS wet plate kit, and made awesome power. I'm also running an NOS mini-proggressive controller. With the 150 jets, I made 575/560 at the wheels.