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Ok looks like when the O2's failed a couple months ago I didn't get to them in time and the fuel might have washed the cylinder walls and the rings scored the sleeves. I'm getting gas in the oil and did a quick oil change and am gonna get the tune reset asap but so far no luck, my MPG has dropped to 16mpg even with 90% highway. So I'm thinking about getting a new short block.
I'm lookin at a 408ci Iron Block stroker, TSP seems to have a good price on them, thinkin I'm gonna go N/A w/juice but not sure which pistons to go with they offer Mahle -12cc Diamond -2cc (which is too high of a compression for a daily I'd think), -15cc and -10cc. I've been thinking of goin with 6.0L heads ported in the future or LS7 heads and intake manifold down the road. Now my concern is since I'm on a tight budget I was just gonna do the short block and associated accessories (oil pump, water pump, lifters, pushrods, cam thinkin the texas giant 248/254, .611"/.613" 114lsa) would I be ok with stock heads for now until I can really afford to get the other heads? I know it'd be smarter to do it all at once but money is hindering that at the moment.
I'm guessing other stuff I'd need would be fuel pump/injectors and definately a savings account for a Ford 9".
Thoughts? I'm pretty much nursing the ws6 until i get caught up on my bills enough to spare some cash for a beater daily.
I'm lookin at a 408ci Iron Block stroker, TSP seems to have a good price on them, thinkin I'm gonna go N/A w/juice but not sure which pistons to go with they offer Mahle -12cc Diamond -2cc (which is too high of a compression for a daily I'd think), -15cc and -10cc. I've been thinking of goin with 6.0L heads ported in the future or LS7 heads and intake manifold down the road. Now my concern is since I'm on a tight budget I was just gonna do the short block and associated accessories (oil pump, water pump, lifters, pushrods, cam thinkin the texas giant 248/254, .611"/.613" 114lsa) would I be ok with stock heads for now until I can really afford to get the other heads? I know it'd be smarter to do it all at once but money is hindering that at the moment.
I'm guessing other stuff I'd need would be fuel pump/injectors and definately a savings account for a Ford 9".
Thoughts? I'm pretty much nursing the ws6 until i get caught up on my bills enough to spare some cash for a beater daily.
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Originally Posted by HitmanLSX
Ok looks like when the O2's failed a couple months ago I didn't get to them in time and the fuel might have washed the cylinder walls and the rings scored the sleeves. I'm getting gas in the oil and did a quick oil change and am gonna get the tune reset asap but so far no luck, my MPG has dropped to 16mpg even with 90% highway. So I'm thinking about getting a new short block.
I'm lookin at a 408ci Iron Block stroker, TSP seems to have a good price on them, thinkin I'm gonna go N/A w/juice but not sure which pistons to go with they offer Mahle -12cc Diamond -2cc (which is too high of a compression for a daily I'd think), -15cc and -10cc. I've been thinking of goin with 6.0L heads ported in the future or LS7 heads and intake manifold down the road. Now my concern is since I'm on a tight budget I was just gonna do the short block and associated accessories (oil pump, water pump, lifters, pushrods, cam thinkin the texas giant 248/254, .611"/.613" 114lsa) would I be ok with stock heads for now until I can really afford to get the other heads? I know it'd be smarter to do it all at once but money is hindering that at the moment.
I'm guessing other stuff I'd need would be fuel pump/injectors and definately a savings account for a Ford 9".
Thoughts? I'm pretty much nursing the ws6 until i get caught up on my bills enough to spare some cash for a beater daily.
I'm lookin at a 408ci Iron Block stroker, TSP seems to have a good price on them, thinkin I'm gonna go N/A w/juice but not sure which pistons to go with they offer Mahle -12cc Diamond -2cc (which is too high of a compression for a daily I'd think), -15cc and -10cc. I've been thinking of goin with 6.0L heads ported in the future or LS7 heads and intake manifold down the road. Now my concern is since I'm on a tight budget I was just gonna do the short block and associated accessories (oil pump, water pump, lifters, pushrods, cam thinkin the texas giant 248/254, .611"/.613" 114lsa) would I be ok with stock heads for now until I can really afford to get the other heads? I know it'd be smarter to do it all at once but money is hindering that at the moment.
I'm guessing other stuff I'd need would be fuel pump/injectors and definately a savings account for a Ford 9".
Thoughts? I'm pretty much nursing the ws6 until i get caught up on my bills enough to spare some cash for a beater daily.
Originally Posted by HitmanLSX
anyone?
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Not trying to be a jerk or rub anything in, just confused how we can help since a 9 inch, shortblock and all the things that you will find you need for it are gonna run you a lot of $$$$$. Not to mention getting it put together correctly and tuned.
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So, what exactly are you asking? And on top of that you wanna get a beater?
My suggestion, get a reliable (and easy to fix if it needs it) beater/DD and park the TA till you can afford to fix it right.
Dang, after checking out TSP, the crankshaft is gonna cost you more then the block, that bites.
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I'm just tryin to plan ahead so I know exactly what I need to do. I'm workin on getting a daily so I can park the TA until I can get it fixed but I'd just like to have an idea of if I'm heading the right direction so I can work on a budget plan.
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Has Ellis checked out the car yet? Maybe he can save you a ton of $$ by figuring out what is wrong before you drop a wad of cash that you might not have to. :shrug:
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How about a 408 LS2 shortblock for around $2800? Then add a set of L92 heads that flow 325+ @ .600" stock for under $750/pr or getting the CNC'd L92's from TSP w/ dual springs/s.s. valves that flow 350+ @ .600" for $1500. Use the new L76 intake that out flows the FAST 90 and is under $500 complete w/ 90mm TB, fuel rails, and 39# injectors! Give me a call when you're ready...
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Originally Posted by LSxChevelle
Not much...
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i don't think you need the ecu. i think marks engine is ls2 based. from what i remember some of the sensors are in different spots but not sure what else is needed.
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Mine is an LS1 motor cuz I didn't want to change everything over. I forget now what it cost, but it can be rather involved.
And no, stock heads won't do a 408 with a BIG cam justice. You could put $1k into them (porting & polishing, valves, etc) to make them work....
And don't take this wrong, but what you're talking about doing takes a lot of knowledge. I know a fair amount about cars and I needed help. Things like degreeing a cam, setting the valve train up properly, installing a clutch that will hold up to this much power, tuning.....you're gonna need help, so plan for that part of the budget too.
And no, stock heads won't do a 408 with a BIG cam justice. You could put $1k into them (porting & polishing, valves, etc) to make them work....
And don't take this wrong, but what you're talking about doing takes a lot of knowledge. I know a fair amount about cars and I needed help. Things like degreeing a cam, setting the valve train up properly, installing a clutch that will hold up to this much power, tuning.....you're gonna need help, so plan for that part of the budget too.
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yeah i wasn't planning on doing this myself. i'd called ellis to get a labor quote but haven't heard back yet. it's gonna be a task i know that.