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Originally Posted by Racehead
As opposed to posting a C5 article from say ... a Ford mag ? The car either ran the time or it didn't, I'm not sure what being biased has to do with it ? Do you think that the 11.97 is just an "opinion" ? Or is it an undeniable "fact" that was witnessed that day by everyone who happened to be there ? If it had been written about by an unbiased Ford lover would it then have been only a 12.02 or something ?
Sure we can ! Can we go with a stock Cobra running an 11 as an "impossibility" even with god at the wheel ?!
Are we done here ?
Do you drive a Honda ?
OK now I know you've got a honda in that stable somewhere ? As long as that 18K includes moving the engine back to where the driver sits to help out the extreme nose heavy condition that Cobra's suffer from, and replace that crappy stock IRS that Cobra's have with something a little better .... like from a C5, and also you'll need to drop about 700 lbs from the total weight of that pig !
It's been fun !
Sure we can ! Can we go with a stock Cobra running an 11 as an "impossibility" even with god at the wheel ?!
Are we done here ?
Do you drive a Honda ?
OK now I know you've got a honda in that stable somewhere ? As long as that 18K includes moving the engine back to where the driver sits to help out the extreme nose heavy condition that Cobra's suffer from, and replace that crappy stock IRS that Cobra's have with something a little better .... like from a C5, and also you'll need to drop about 700 lbs from the total weight of that pig !
It's been fun !
Racehead, welcome and thanks for clueless comments.
Let me respond to your post.
1. Yes it matters a lot, they are clearly loyal and could have zip tied it or whatever you guys call the STOCK mods...
2. I agree, I don't see a COBRA running 11's stock.
3. Are you done here, only if you wanna..
4. I don't drive a honda, I ride one. There is a difference.
5. No need to move the Mighty modular, and we will just make more HP to compensate for the 700 pounds, deal with it.
6. It's been fun, absolutely, and will continue to be.
7. Now answer my damn question..with a simple yes or no if you are capable of that.
Do you or do you not think that with 18K leftover at my disposal I can make my COBRA run circles around a STOCK c5 z, both on a road course and the 1/4?
Remember, a simple yes or no is all that is required here.
And I am sure others will jump in as well.
Also, would you please share with me what you are rolling in? Because clearly you are a very very jealous individual.
Ken
and yes, we are still having fun
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Originally Posted by kens03cobra
Do you or do you not think that with 18K leftover at my disposal I can make my COBRA run circles around a STOCK c5 z, both on a road course and the 1/4?
Remember, a simple yes or no is all that is required here.
And I am sure others will jump in as well.
Also, would you please share with me what you are rolling in? Because clearly you are a very very jealous individual.
Ken
and yes, we are still having fun
Remember, a simple yes or no is all that is required here.
And I am sure others will jump in as well.
Also, would you please share with me what you are rolling in? Because clearly you are a very very jealous individual.
Ken
and yes, we are still having fun
*cough* http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...amaro_feature/
You can add as much power as you want, but it won't let you go through a corner any faster.
And that "If I spent $18k on my car it would be faster than a Corvette" argument is the most ricer thing you have ever said on this site thus far. Of ******* course you could, but it will still be a lard *** Cobra! You could buy a 1989 Civic CRX and dump $51k into it, and it would run all sorts of circles around the Corvette, but it's still a POS Honda! Actually, you could buy a 1989 Civic CRX and dump just $18k into it, and it would run circles around a bone stock vette, but wtf, why would you?
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Exactly my point poik,
First off, not starting/picking fights...as much as you want to think that.
Ricer comment, get real...
We are not talking civics here
why are you all bent out of shape over 600 lbs?
Sure, you could dump 51k in a yugo and beat a lot of things, thats not my point.
When comparing a 52K car to a 34K car I am stating it is very very ******* close, and in no way worth 18K for the diff.
Now, putting 18K in a COBRA is diff than putting 51K in a civic, I agree with you on that.
No **** more power does not make it corner better, good call ACE.
Being I only need about $500 in HP mods to spank the vette, that leaves me 17.5K to tweak the suspension.. I think that would be enough, how bout YOU??
With that said, I could easily take one on the curves or the 1/4. Understand?
Thank you for atleast answering my question with a YES! Your a good man.
We are just having fun here, no need to be rude and get your g-string wadded up
So, bottom line is this last discussion between Robert and I was based around stock c5 and that a stock COBRA is close to the same performance.
I simply noted there is an 18K diff in the stickers, to me the c5 does not out perform the TERMINATOR to warrant 18K.
Seriously, we are just poking each other and having fun, don't take it personnal. I have agreed with you folks on the facts and I have not said anything that is not true.
Love you guys,
Ken
First off, not starting/picking fights...as much as you want to think that.
Ricer comment, get real...
We are not talking civics here
why are you all bent out of shape over 600 lbs?
Sure, you could dump 51k in a yugo and beat a lot of things, thats not my point.
When comparing a 52K car to a 34K car I am stating it is very very ******* close, and in no way worth 18K for the diff.
Now, putting 18K in a COBRA is diff than putting 51K in a civic, I agree with you on that.
No **** more power does not make it corner better, good call ACE.
Being I only need about $500 in HP mods to spank the vette, that leaves me 17.5K to tweak the suspension.. I think that would be enough, how bout YOU??
With that said, I could easily take one on the curves or the 1/4. Understand?
Thank you for atleast answering my question with a YES! Your a good man.
We are just having fun here, no need to be rude and get your g-string wadded up
So, bottom line is this last discussion between Robert and I was based around stock c5 and that a stock COBRA is close to the same performance.
I simply noted there is an 18K diff in the stickers, to me the c5 does not out perform the TERMINATOR to warrant 18K.
Seriously, we are just poking each other and having fun, don't take it personnal. I have agreed with you folks on the facts and I have not said anything that is not true.
Love you guys,
Ken
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And also, I think that if it were between your Cobra with $18k in mods and you driving, and Bill driving a stock Z06, I think he would still kick your *** around a road course.
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Originally Posted by Poik
And also, I think that if it were between your Cobra with $18k in mods and you driving, and Bill driving a stock Z06, I think he would still kick your *** around a road course.
I think not, but you entitled to your own opinion.
OH, POIK, what is the link for?
To show me that the slim racing gm machine weighs in at 3750?
And you call my car a lard ***
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Originally Posted by kens03cobra
Do you or do you not think that with 18K leftover at my disposal I can make my COBRA run circles around a STOCK c5 z, both on a road course and the 1/4?
I agree with Poik, saying a heavily modded cobra could run circles around a stock C5 is a ricer arguement.
Its common knowlege that a Stock C5 can run into the 11's. It may not go deep into the 11's but a 11.99 is still an 11 second pass. The right environmental conditions, the right driver (biggest part of the equation), proper track prep and it will happen.
Its was like when the Camaros were trying to get into the 12's bone stock. My car bone stock went 13.01 @109 and a 1.98 '60. Could it have gone faster, yes but not much. Could it have gone into the 12's, yes, but not with me behind the wheel, the '60 still had some breathing room.
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Originally Posted by kens03cobra
To show me that the slim racing gm machine weighs in at 3750?
And you call my car a lard ***
Ken
And you call my car a lard ***
Ken
Richard Hilles 218mph 95 Z28 breaks the scales at 4200lbs and can still run a corner north of 200mph.
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Originally Posted by Robert56@NitrousDirect
Sounds good, we should do a ls1tech bike day and get everyone out there?
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Eric, is that a GSXR 1K in your pic you posted? Cody on here (Rockin C Racing) has a stretched wheelbase 05' Gixxer 1K that he runs at the track regularly. It's umm,,,,, slow.
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Originally Posted by NataSS Inc
You'd be better off spending 500.00 for a driving school. And 18K would be scratching the surface to get a car prepped for road course duty. I dont think you realize how nimble the Z06 actually is. Couple that with 405hp and a driver that has his head screwed on straight and you'll have a hard time keeping up even with 18K sunk into a Cobra.
I agree with Poik, saying a heavily modded cobra could run circles around a stock C5 is a ricer arguement.
Its common knowlege that a Stock C5 can run into the 11's. It may not go deep into the 11's but a 11.99 is still an 11 second pass. The right environmental conditions, the right driver (biggest part of the equation), proper track prep and it will happen.
Its was like when the Camaros were trying to get into the 12's bone stock. My car bone stock went 13.01 @109 and a 1.98 '60. Could it have gone faster, yes but not much. Could it have gone into the 12's, yes, but not with me behind the wheel, the '60 still had some breathing room.
I agree with Poik, saying a heavily modded cobra could run circles around a stock C5 is a ricer arguement.
Its common knowlege that a Stock C5 can run into the 11's. It may not go deep into the 11's but a 11.99 is still an 11 second pass. The right environmental conditions, the right driver (biggest part of the equation), proper track prep and it will happen.
Its was like when the Camaros were trying to get into the 12's bone stock. My car bone stock went 13.01 @109 and a 1.98 '60. Could it have gone faster, yes but not much. Could it have gone into the 12's, yes, but not with me behind the wheel, the '60 still had some breathing room.
Nata, you made some valid points.
School is already scheduled, should be a good time and I am sure I will learn a lot. I am lucky enough to live about 5 miles from Summit Point, and had some beers with one of the lead trainers at the local 340 pub.
True, the z's are nimble, no doubt.
Lets put it this way, if FORD would have put 18K more into it prior to release we would not be having this conversation as they would not even be close in performance.
Stop with the ricer comments gents, geesh.
If I said that a FORD GT spanks a stock c5 z, you would bring up the price diff...
that is all
Ken
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Originally Posted by kens03cobra
I think not, but you entitled to your own opinion.
OH, POIK, what is the link for?
To show me that the slim racing gm machine weighs in at 3750?
And you call my car a lard ***
Ken
OH, POIK, what is the link for?
To show me that the slim racing gm machine weighs in at 3750?
And you call my car a lard ***
Ken
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Originally Posted by kens03cobra
Lets put it this way, if FORD would have put 18K more into it prior to release we would not be having this conversation as they would not even be close in performance.
If I said that a FORD GT spanks a stock c5 z, you would bring up the price diff...
Ken
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The GT and C5 are 2 totally different cars. The GT has been thrown into the "exotic" catagory, which in my mid says "over powered, under preforms but looks really neato".
Now if we wanted to compare the GT to the C6 Z06, I would be saying the "for the price difference I COULD make a Z06 run circles around a GT". Here I'll show you what it looks like......
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Originally Posted by NataSS Inc
But they didnt so its a moot point
No I wouldnt becuase I would never spend that kind of money on a car that had more recalls than a pinto. J/K
The GT and C5 are 2 totally different cars. The GT has been thrown into the "exotic" catagory, which in my mid says "over powered, under preforms but looks really neato".
Now if we wanted to compare the GT to the C6 Z06, I would be saying the "for the price difference I COULD make a Z06 run circles around a GT". Here I'll show you what it looks like......
No I wouldnt becuase I would never spend that kind of money on a car that had more recalls than a pinto. J/K
The GT and C5 are 2 totally different cars. The GT has been thrown into the "exotic" catagory, which in my mid says "over powered, under preforms but looks really neato".
Now if we wanted to compare the GT to the C6 Z06, I would be saying the "for the price difference I COULD make a Z06 run circles around a GT". Here I'll show you what it looks like......
Nata, again some good points and thanks for being civil.
Yes you could take the $ diff and make the c6 run circles around a stock GT, my point exactly.
There will always be someone faster, just takes money, we all know that.
We all love our cars and appear to be somewhat loyal, which is good for all and helps these lil rival conversations exist, which is also healthy.
Don't get me wrong, I respect the vettes and how they run, just found it not to be common knowledge that a c5 runs 11's stock. I have played with a few and they certainly did not have the driver mod I guess. But then again you guys think I can't drive either
Ken
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Originally Posted by Mikey 97Z M6
That would be something worth mentioning later in the year when the weather gets nice.
Eric, is that a GSXR 1K in your pic you posted? Cody on here (Rockin C Racing) has a stretched wheelbase 05' Gixxer 1K that he runs at the track regularly. It's umm,,,,, slow.
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Eric, is that a GSXR 1K in your pic you posted? Cody on here (Rockin C Racing) has a stretched wheelbase 05' Gixxer 1K that he runs at the track regularly. It's umm,,,,, slow.
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Originally Posted by Mikey 97Z M6
That would be something worth mentioning later in the year when the weather gets nice.
Eric, is that a GSXR 1K in your pic you posted? Cody on here (Rockin C Racing) has a stretched wheelbase 05' Gixxer 1K that he runs at the track regularly. It's umm,,,,, slow.
Mike
Eric, is that a GSXR 1K in your pic you posted? Cody on here (Rockin C Racing) has a stretched wheelbase 05' Gixxer 1K that he runs at the track regularly. It's umm,,,,, slow.
Mike
Like he said, mine is an '05 1000. I have straps and powering links for the drag strip. It blows your skirt back pretty good when you hit the unit (~200 rwhp @ 640 lbs w/ rider).
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Racehead, welcome and thanks for clueless comments.
Let me respond to your post.
1. Yes it matters a lot, they are clearly loyal and could have zip tied it or whatever you guys call the STOCK mods...
Let me respond to your post.
1. Yes it matters a lot, they are clearly loyal and could have zip tied it or whatever you guys call the STOCK mods...
2. I agree, I don't see a COBRA running 11's stock.
4. I don't drive a honda, I ride one. There is a difference.
5. No need to move the Mighty modular, and we will just make more HP to compensate for the 700 pounds, deal with it.
6. It's been fun, absolutely, and will continue to be.
7. Now answer my damn question..with a simple yes or no if you are capable of that.
Do you or do you not think that with 18K leftover at my disposal I can make my COBRA run circles around a STOCK c5 z, both on a road course and the 1/4?
Remember, a simple yes or no is all that is required here.
Do you or do you not think that with 18K leftover at my disposal I can make my COBRA run circles around a STOCK c5 z, both on a road course and the 1/4?
Remember, a simple yes or no is all that is required here.
Also, would you please share with me what you are rolling in? Because clearly you are a very very jealous individual.
PS My wife and I made a deal about a year ago. If I bought her a new house, she would let me buy a new Z06. We've been in our new house for about 6 weeks now. I'm not going to buy a new Z06, but you're idea that I would be jealous of your Cobra ( which BTW I spanked every one I ever saw on a road course in an fbody) is worth major laughs. Thanks for that
Ken
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Yo Race head, perhaps you can actually help me out besides telling me how poor of a driver I am.
I am in the market for an RC boat..
I am looking for an electric, mid size (3ft or so) and ready to run out of the box deal. I have shopped a few but have no experience what so ever with them. Do you?
Something 200 dolla or less is preferred, as it will be used while intoxicated on the pontoon boat this summer. Not trying to win any competitions, just ease of use and quality... speed would be cool too, just not a chebby
Thanks,
Ken
I am in the market for an RC boat..
I am looking for an electric, mid size (3ft or so) and ready to run out of the box deal. I have shopped a few but have no experience what so ever with them. Do you?
Something 200 dolla or less is preferred, as it will be used while intoxicated on the pontoon boat this summer. Not trying to win any competitions, just ease of use and quality... speed would be cool too, just not a chebby
Thanks,
Ken
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Yo Race head, perhaps you can actually help me out besides telling me how poor of a driver I am.
I am in the market for an RC boat..
I am looking for an electric, mid size (3ft or so) and ready to run out of the box deal. I have shopped a few but have no experience what so ever with them. Do you?
Something 200 dolla or less is preferred, as it will be used while intoxicated on the pontoon boat this summer. Not trying to win any competitions, just ease of use and quality... speed would be cool too, just not a chebby
Thanks,
Ken
I am in the market for an RC boat..
I am looking for an electric, mid size (3ft or so) and ready to run out of the box deal. I have shopped a few but have no experience what so ever with them. Do you?
Something 200 dolla or less is preferred, as it will be used while intoxicated on the pontoon boat this summer. Not trying to win any competitions, just ease of use and quality... speed would be cool too, just not a chebby
Thanks,
Ken
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Ken, maybe you missed this in the article on the Z06: "SuperCar Killer". I remember one shoot out against the Enzo, yes the Enzo won the day, but barely. Now if I put the difference in dollars-$600,000.00-into the Z06 then I could make up the micro seconds that the Enzo had over the Z06 (see my point, how ridiculous).
Why is it we see no Cobras winning any road racing titles? But, we see the Vette taking mucho titles, hmmmmm...
Now here is some advice, instead of pumping $18 into a Cobra, sell the Cobra and add the $18k and go buy a "SuperCar Killer." That way you would have the real deal instead of a wanna be supercar killer.
Yea, guys lets do a bike day this Summer. Now, don't expect my old Iron Head to be running close to the GSX'er crowd, but we can still have some fun.
Robert
Why is it we see no Cobras winning any road racing titles? But, we see the Vette taking mucho titles, hmmmmm...
Now here is some advice, instead of pumping $18 into a Cobra, sell the Cobra and add the $18k and go buy a "SuperCar Killer." That way you would have the real deal instead of a wanna be supercar killer.
Yea, guys lets do a bike day this Summer. Now, don't expect my old Iron Head to be running close to the GSX'er crowd, but we can still have some fun.
Robert
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Yea, guys lets do a bike day this Summer. Now, don't expect my old Iron Head to be running close to the GSX'er crowd, but we can still have some fun.
Robert
Robert
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