99blancoSS

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WAY TO GO AUSSIES




Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.
A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown. Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by parliament. 'If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you', he said on National Television.



'I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia : one the Australian law and another Islamic law that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option', Costello said.



Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should 'clear off. Basically people who don't want to be Australians, and who don't want, to live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can basically clear off', he said.



Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques.
Quote: 'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.'



'However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the 'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia .' 'However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand.' 'This idea of Australia being a multi-cultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. And as Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle.'
'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'



'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society .. Learn the language!'
'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.'
'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'
'If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like 'A Fair Go', then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others.
'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom,
'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.'



'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.'

NWDragRacer

Can you imagine if a US lawmaker said that today?

No, but I can dream.

Rawr256

He/She would be burned at the stake and force out of the country and called a terrorist themselves.

The US twenty years ago wouldn't be putting up with any of this BS we see today.

On a side note, Aussie is where I plan to retire or eventually move to. Everytime I think of the place I get warm fuzzy feelings for some reason.

TwoFast4Lv

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I think I found a country I could happily live in!

Mikey 97Z M6

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Amen to that. Never thought I'd consider becoming an immigrant, but who knows.

I'm not positive about their current laws, but I think in order to become a permanent resident in that country, you have to have a skilled trade that is in demand.

Mike

TwoFast4Lv

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Joe ,NW94, Could fill us in on that. He lived there in his Teens. I can not remember but I think a skilled trade in need and a LARGE sum of money in the bank with a return ticket to your home country

Do not quote me it has been a while since Joe and I chatted about it.

NataSS Inc

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Who do I turn my US passport into to get an Austrailian one?

217zenki

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'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society .. Learn the language!'
ahahahaha

idea of Australia being a multi-cultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity

Say it aint so..

217zenki

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Austraila rocks u have to have atleast 20k worth of assets to even be considered for citizenship.. Here ya just have to be able to hop a fence with a kilo and a sumbero.

99blancoSS

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Got no skill (unless somone needs a cam or head swap on an ls1), guess I'm getting left behind to shut out the lights

NWDragRacer

Only if my contry is lost to the liberals.

That and they have LSx powered cars too!

http://www.hsv.com.au/index_eseries.asp

esoteric

Australia is a socialist state: free health car and comparitively high taxes. Their immigration approach seems logical enough. They don't want you moving to OZ only to be dependent on welfare. Too bad we can't get such forthright talk here, but no candidate wants to alienate anyone...
One interesting Aussie custom is to publish (in the newspaper) all the scores earned on the test taken to graduate from high school. Every student's.

OSUBraden

Good for them. I can only pray our politicians discover their spines.

Robert56

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To bad Ronald Regan wasn't in his hey day in these troubled times, he would hand the towel heads their lunches. Is it politicly correct to refer to terroists as RagHeads, and/or TowelHeads?
Robert

DrEvyl

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I'll probably get the lock down put on this thread, but they had me until the whole "Christian beliefs" crap. If the government of this country told me I needed to follow a particular religion, the words "shove it where it itches" couldn't come out of my mouth fast enough in a brilliant display of the 1st Ammendment in action. Freedom of religion includes freedom FROM religion...

No offense to anyone who is a Christian, but that is just ******* retarded.... and if you wanna worship, God, Allah, Ganesha, Vishnu, or whatever other God you want, go for it... just don't tell me I have to believe in one of these ancient myths to live in your country, or act like I'm immoral or a terrorist because I don't.

Racehead

First you say you don't want to offend anyone who is Christain and then you do by saying their beliefs are nothing more than worshipping an ancient myth ?

edit: And if you read it more slowly this time you'll see that no where does it even suggest you need to be a Christian to live there.

DrEvyl

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I'm sure they'd find that no less offensive than I would find someone telling me it's real, or that I should believe it's real if I want to live in a particular country.

Hmm.

God ain't part of my culture, and I'm not about to go live somewhere else because someone else wants to believe that crap.

217zenki

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Your a dumbass and missed the point.. There a christian based country but they dont force religion on any cits...

Racehead

But no where in that article or in this thread was/is there a single trace of anybody trying to convince you that god is or is not real. This subject was brought up entirely by YOU. So what the hell are you talking about ?



Hmm.

Zeke I know your more intelligent than this. No where in that article did it suggest that you should live somewhere else just because you don't believe in god. It said that you should leave if the idea of god offends you because their culture and laws were based on christian values. Pretty much identical to our laws here in the US.

So I'll say it again, no where in that article does it say anything against someone who does not believe in god, just against those who don't respect others rights to believe in god, and those who cannot accept living under laws created by those who believe in god. The only bias I see is yours

KTamez

Zeke, I understand your point, but if you are offended simply by the *idea* of god, then I think you need some prozac or something dude. Even the sentance you quoted says nothing about believing just don't bitch about the fact that others do.....

Note: I have NEVER EVER been in a religious debate in my life, soley because other beliefs against what mine are do not matter. I do not bitch about yours, and no one bitches about mine. Everything I read, seems to show I would be fine in Australia.