spraying light over dark??
spraying light over dark?? i was wondering, if i were to spray my hood black first(only the hood not the rest of the car) and then lay a template or decal over it after it dried, and then came back and sprayed a silver just a tad darker than bright silver metallic, would it have a different shade or tone or darkness where as the rest of the car that was just primer & the silver?? or would it be fine and be about the same all over? oh and also, if i planned on spraying the hood black then laying a template or decal over it and sprayed the silver on top of it and then once it dried pulled up the template or decal leaving the image black underneath & then clearing the whole car would i need to do the black in flat black or gloss? since ill be spraying the entire car with clear at the end of the deal? also would laying a decal or template on the black paint pull it up when i lifted it off after the silver dried? or should i just use masking tape instead of a decal which would stick?
okay prep the hood and but the black where you want it and let it dry, put your decals on, then seal the hood with the proper sealer for the color and paint the color and clear it.to make whatever the decal is look seamless when you clear spray the area where the decal was first, then clear the entire hood, then when all done water block the area and buff to shine, and it will look killer. hope this helps
hey man thanks! so, your saying spray the black and let it dry, then put the decal on and put the sealer on while the decal is still on or take the decal off first and then put the sealer on? see im not wanting to leave the decal on, i plan on just having the hood black where the decal was and the rest of the hood silver bc i was going to paint something else inside the black on the hood. i wasnt wanting to keep the decal on the hood, just the shape of it in filled in in black.
lets say you want to put 346 on the panel,
step 1 spray black
step 2 apply decal
step 3 seal entire panel
step 4 spray the color coat
step 5 clear coat
the 346 will be black and the rest of the panel will be silver
step 1 spray black
step 2 apply decal
step 3 seal entire panel
step 4 spray the color coat
step 5 clear coat
the 346 will be black and the rest of the panel will be silver
okay so after step 5 i just pull the decal off right? oh and also should i wait til i get finished spraying whatever im going to spray inside tha black before i clear coat the whole hood??
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No. He is saying spray the hood black let it dry put the decal on and leave it on. Then spray the sealer and silver. Then take the decal off when the silver dries then clear the hood. When the decal comes off there is going to be black. You don't actually have to paint the whole hood black just enough that the decal will cover. Got it.
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oh okay im sorry i got it now lol
Step 1 paint just enough of the hood black to lay the decal
Step 2 apply decal
Step 3 spray sealer
Step 4 spray silver
Step 5 after silver dries pull off the decal & spray whatever i want inside the decal shape which will be black
Step 6 spray clear coat
that right now? sorry for the confusion
Step 1 paint just enough of the hood black to lay the decal
Step 2 apply decal
Step 3 spray sealer
Step 4 spray silver
Step 5 after silver dries pull off the decal & spray whatever i want inside the decal shape which will be black
Step 6 spray clear coat
that right now? sorry for the confusion
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If you plan on spraying something inside the black decal before you clear make sure you mask around the black after you take the decal off or you will get over spray on the silver. Take your time doing it. I don't know how many times I have done stuff like this and when I took off the mask I didn't pay close enough attention and missed areas or accidently taped something I didn't want taped. Just take your time.
If you plan on spraying something inside the black decal before you clear make sure you mask around the black after you take the decal off or you will get over spray on the silver. Take your time doing it. I don't know how many times I have done stuff like this and when I took off the mask I didn't pay close enough attention and missed areas or accidently taped something I didn't want taped. Just take your time.
lol how many coats do you think it would take to cover the black with the silver? also, how many coats of primer, sealer, & clear do i put on it between & after colors??
honestly that statement was more of sarcasm than anything... but # of coats isn't a finite number... what I mean by that is you need to spray until its covered... not "this paint takes X number of coats." Once it is covered, stop spraying. I can usually get full coverage with 3 coats (one light coat, one medium/heavy coat, then one finesse coat to lay out the metallics)
when you're talking about primer, sealer, and clear... primer is kinda irrelevant because you're sanding off a lot of what you spray on (assuming you prime/block/prime/block/etc). Sealer you want one good coat, maybe two medium coats.. but that depends on the recommendations of specific sealer you're actually using. However.. spraying black first... i wouldn't bother with sealer.. black basecoat is an excellent sealer. Clearcoat you can get crazy if you want, but usually 2-3 coats is just fine. Just take your time.. do it right.. and remember a good paint job is all in the prep work.
when you're talking about primer, sealer, and clear... primer is kinda irrelevant because you're sanding off a lot of what you spray on (assuming you prime/block/prime/block/etc). Sealer you want one good coat, maybe two medium coats.. but that depends on the recommendations of specific sealer you're actually using. However.. spraying black first... i wouldn't bother with sealer.. black basecoat is an excellent sealer. Clearcoat you can get crazy if you want, but usually 2-3 coats is just fine. Just take your time.. do it right.. and remember a good paint job is all in the prep work.
alright, does it matter if i use gloss black or flat black since i am going to spray clear over it? when you say prime/block/prime/block what is block? lol im new to the painting as you can tell
What do you mean by gloss or flat black? You aren't trying to do this with spray cans are you?
After you prime it you need to sand it smooth.. Using a sanding block is generally the way to get the best results from sanding.. Hence the term blocking
After you prime it you need to sand it smooth.. Using a sanding block is generally the way to get the best results from sanding.. Hence the term blocking
What do you mean by gloss or flat black? You aren't trying to do this with spray cans are you?
After you prime it you need to sand it smooth.. Using a sanding block is generally the way to get the best results from sanding.. Hence the term blocking
After you prime it you need to sand it smooth.. Using a sanding block is generally the way to get the best results from sanding.. Hence the term blocking
if there is no filler and the finish on the panel it good sand it with no less than 500, i typically prep cars at work with 800 before painting them, but i also have to produce so doing this makes color sand and buff faster, but it also makes for a slick finish