View Poll Results: Does your car have roof bubbles?
No bubbles
202
35.19%
Bubbles fixed under 3/36 warranty
6
1.05%
GM paid for repairs out of warranty
17
2.96%
GM paid for part of the repairs out of warranty
6
1.05%
GM refused to pay for the repairs out of warranty
45
7.84%
I have bubbles but haven't stopped by the dealership
298
51.92%
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is your 98-02 f-body roof bubbling?
05-10-2006, 01:02 PM
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I have a hard top and I have the bubbles. Not too bad, but noticeable. I showed the body shop manager at the local Chevy dealer (Norman Frede) the service bulletin, but she said that GM would not fix the problem since the car was out of warrnty. I did mention the rust through warranty that extends beyond the 36,000 mile warranty, but the body shop manager said the problem was not rust through, so the problem was not covered by that warranty either.
05-10-2006, 01:27 PM
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i got them =( i am gunna check with the dealerships
what the hell do you tell them when you go to see if they will fix it? my roof bubbles and it's gm's fault....please fix it ? lol
what the hell do you tell them when you go to see if they will fix it? my roof bubbles and it's gm's fault....please fix it ? lol
05-10-2006, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SShotgun_Rider12
I have a hard top and I have the bubbles. Not too bad, but noticeable. I showed the body shop manager at the local Chevy dealer (Norman Frede) the service bulletin, but she said that GM would not fix the problem since the car was out of warrnty. I did mention the rust through warranty that extends beyond the 36,000 mile warranty, but the body shop manager said the problem was not rust through, so the problem was not covered by that warranty either.
05-11-2006, 10:50 AM
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Bbb Has anyone filed a complaint with the BBB yet?? (at least those who have not been able to get it fixed?). To me this seems like a good complaint, GM selling a product with an expensive defect and not fixing the problem, and knowing about it. I went to a dealership and they said NO!, sorry!, 
before I give it a shot, is there anyone else that has???
before I give it a shot, is there anyone else that has???
05-11-2006, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by chad2775
Has anyone filed a complaint with the BBB yet?? (at least those who have not been able to get it fixed?). To me this seems like a good complaint, GM selling a product with an expensive defect and not fixing the problem, and knowing about it. I went to a dealership and they said NO!, sorry!, before I give it a shot, is there anyone else that has???
before I give it a shot, is there anyone else that has???
05-11-2006, 08:33 PM
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I had a very bad case of the roof bubbles on my 01TA. The dealership I had most my service done at wouldn't touch it cause it was out of warranty. I called the Pontiac 800# and talked to some woman there and she got the ball rolling for me. I then ended up getting it fixed through the dealership I bought it from with her help under the rust thru warranty. I looked into getting it fixed on my own before and estimates ranged from $700-$900. I believe I got lucky. I dont think GM had to fix it for me. Good luck everyone. BTW, I got it fixed thru Walker Pontiac in Bowie Md. if anyone local wants to know.
05-21-2006, 01:44 AM
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https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...hlight=lawsuit
It's an opportunity to make your situation known ......
It's an opportunity to make your situation known ......
05-27-2006, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by racer88
The bubbling on the T/A roof generally is 2 rows across the pillar almost on each side of it.
i dont want to let some hack of a dealer drive my car around. its not exactly "street/porter friendly" anymore
how willing are they to give you money to take it somewhere?
05-28-2006, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by AronZ28
Does your 1998 to 2002 Fbody have this annoying problem? The sail panel(on t-top cars) or the entire roof(on hardtops) has a factory defect. If you park your car out in the sun, little bubbles about the size of a pinhead start appearing on the roof. Some cars have lots of these little buggers on their tops. Some people have had these little bubbles pop the clearcoat.
This problem is caused by the glue used to hold the plastic roof on. The glue degasses and the gas travels up through the panel. Eventually it leaves these nice little bubbles in your paint. GM issued a TSB on the issue.
GM TSB
I personally think that this is total bullshit on GM's part. There should be a recall on this. GM is paying for some people's repair and not others. The dealership told me I was SOL, and I got a quote to fix it for $880. My car is reguarly waxed and garaged its entire life. Total bullshit.
I'm wondering if we would have enough people on this board with this problem to form a class action suit against GM. If there are any lawyers in the room, feel free to chime in with your opinion.
This problem is caused by the glue used to hold the plastic roof on. The glue degasses and the gas travels up through the panel. Eventually it leaves these nice little bubbles in your paint. GM issued a TSB on the issue.
GM TSB
I personally think that this is total bullshit on GM's part. There should be a recall on this. GM is paying for some people's repair and not others. The dealership told me I was SOL, and I got a quote to fix it for $880. My car is reguarly waxed and garaged its entire life. Total bullshit.
I'm wondering if we would have enough people on this board with this problem to form a class action suit against GM. If there are any lawyers in the room, feel free to chime in with your opinion.
I don't think that you are going to get it repaired correctly for $880.00...
The shop that quoted you that price may be trying to rip you off IMO.
This repair involves cutting off your old roof (the whole darn thing), cleaning/scraping all of the old glue off and then they have to order a replacement roof panel for your car, paint it to match, and then fit the new roof skin to your car. Do you really think that the shop that quoted you that price can do all of this for $880.00? (not likely unless you are married to the owners daughter
)I would bet that they are just going to try and sand down your bubbles and refinish the roof you have for that cheap. This method of repair will not last long as the glue (which causes the problem in the first place) is still there...
Please be careful so you do not get ripped off on this repair. Ask lots of questions and if you have any doubts at all, find a different shop.
FWIW, I made a great paper weight out of a piece of my old roof and got some awesome pice of my new roof sitting on sawhorses at the stealership.
The guy that did my paint work was a friggin pro. My roof was painted 2 weeks BEFORE I ever took my car to the shop and was a perfect color match. The guy was painting by 'number' and hit it on the money the first try... Finally, a 'Dealer' that got it right for a change.
They told me that it 'would' have been a $2k repair for me if not for the TSB and warranty.Best of luck getting your ride fixed up friend.
05-28-2006, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by DriveATransAm
i just noticed this today and came here to post about it. what the **** is that ****.
i dont want to let some hack of a dealer drive my car around. its not exactly "street/porter friendly" anymore
how willing are they to give you money to take it somewhere?
i dont want to let some hack of a dealer drive my car around. its not exactly "street/porter friendly" anymore
how willing are they to give you money to take it somewhere?
I wasn't about to leave my car at a dealer for any length of time either.
So I had them order my roof FIRST and when the roof was there (and had been painted) I then took it in for the work. I dropped it off first thing in the AM and picked it up that afternoon before close.
When I dropped it off I had the paint service manager stand right there with me while I wrote down my mileage and had her sign off on it. (she must have thought I was nuts) My car had NO more miles on it than it did when I dropped it off... It pays to cover your a$$ when dealing with these people.
05-28-2006, 09:20 AM
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I had a few estimates myself before I got GM to fix mine. All were within $700-$900. The shop that ended up fixing mine said the work cost about $800. (Dont remember exactly) Mine was done correctly. New roof panel. What's so hard about it? Tear off old roof, glue on new one, and paint.