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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 09:55 PM
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Default Maf only hesitation

LTFTs are good up to 5000hz. From there they go 10.8 10.5 13.3 16.8 and so on...... I am stumped???? AFR's go up to 18. Runs good in SD. All trims are great as well as wot. I have to agree it does run better with the MAF, hence, why I am trying to figure it out. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Running a Duralast MAF

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Old Apr 18, 2015 | 08:32 PM
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Can you post the tune as well?
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Old Apr 19, 2015 | 12:47 PM
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It's basically a stock tune setup for tuning the MAF. I tell it to keep adding fuel but does nothing. I am leaning towards the ecm, but don't know for sure. I've added up to 50% and the trims are still the same.
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Old Apr 19, 2015 | 01:29 PM
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I'm under the impression you need to play with the Maf tables to get it to where it needs to be??

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Old Apr 19, 2015 | 11:45 PM
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When it goes lean what is the MAF and the 02's showing?

What MAF is it and how old is it?
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Old Apr 20, 2015 | 10:17 PM
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Are your hertz spiking or relatively smooth? (I'm not on my computer)
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Old Apr 21, 2015 | 06:53 AM
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If you're adding fuel to the maf and its doing nothing its normally a sign of a bad maf. Thats assuming your fuel pump and pressure are good. I also see way more bad aftermarket mafs vs oe mafs.
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Old Apr 21, 2015 | 07:07 PM
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The MAF is a slow instrument. That's why it is ignored at
unsteady-MAP conditions (i.e. fast changing air mass flow).
It's very likely that an air-step will be giving you a lagging
air mass reading and a transient lean fueling. That would
lead to KR (at best) which always makes for some hesitation.
But this will not affect LTFTs which are steady state
average based. You can have good steady-pedal trims and
mixture from MAF-only, but you probably can't fix the lag.
On the other hand maybe a slow spooling turbo is enough
to cover the MAF reading lag (I'd bet not, though).
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Old Apr 25, 2015 | 05:31 PM
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Took it to a shop in Houston and they found out that the MAF was only reading up to 6000hz and would stop. Fixed problem with an ls7 MAF.
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Originally Posted by Turbo42V8
Took it to a shop in Houston and they found out that the MAF was only reading up to 6000hz and would stop. Fixed problem with an ls7 MAF.
Awesome man, I'm glad you found it. I had my car on the dyno a few ago at work at it went dead lean above 4k rpms. I got kinda nervous when I saw 15:1.
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Originally Posted by Turbo42V8
Took it to a shop in Houston and they found out that the MAF was only reading up to 6000hz and would stop. Fixed problem with an ls7 MAF.
It sounded like a bad maf to me.
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Old Apr 26, 2015 | 11:47 AM
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LSX, what oe MAF do tuners like to tune the most I'm going from stock 78 to a zo6 or truck MAF with pigtail I guess wanted to know which one is easiest to deal with
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Old Apr 26, 2015 | 12:23 PM
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Z06 and truck MAF are the same (at least through the mid-'00s)
body but I have found that the truck -table- fit a low-mods
setup and the Z06 table, a H/C/I/E setup better as far as
AFR fidelity went (fuel side being left stock). This using the
same descreened 85mm truck MAF hardware.

Numerous tables out there varying in detail, but this pertains
to the platform and not the piece.
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I'm doing a max effort 346 plan on going to bigger MAF and getting a new tune just want to know what MAF most tuners find easiest to tune with
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Old Apr 26, 2015 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JaSSon
I'm doing a max effort 346 plan on going to bigger MAF and getting a new tune just want to know what MAF most tuners find easiest to tune with
I am assuming your talking about LS1's like 99-02 f body's. In that case on all the high hp stuff I do them in SD. I cant think of a single 1,000+hp nitrous or boost car that still had a MAF on a ls1 computer that I have tuned.
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