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Old 04-10-2002, 02:29 PM
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Default Someone read these a-tap #'s and tell what you think "dont look right" please help.

My B2S2 looks way low compared to before and the only thing that I can think of is a damaged 02 simm wire. The wire that is beflow my passenger seat I believe is bad from resting on my headers.
Please read the a-tap reading and tell me what you think.
Also, my Timing looks to be all over the place. It used to just sit at around 27.5 all the way up and now its just everywhere.
In this a-atap, I am just going from 1st to the end of second, if thats not enough, let me know and I'll get more.
only thing that has changed was a new pulley because my first one flew off. I dunno if maybe I could have caused damage to make my timing go everywhere or what but it looks as though I cannot upload the file so if anyone would look at it, Please post and ill email it to you.
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Engine Speed,Vehicle Speed,Ignition Timing Adv,O2 Sensor - B1S1,O2 Sensor - B1S2,O2 Sensor - B2S1,O2 Sensor - B2S2,Knock Retard
855, 8,20.0,0.270,0.905,0.090,0.370,0.0
835, 7,19.5,0.610,0.335,0.725,0.365,0.0
829, 6,20.5,0.225,0.330,0.230,0.355,0.0
786, 6,22.5,0.075,0.335,0.720,0.355,0.0
808, 5,19.5,0.065,0.330,0.170,0.885,0.0
844, 4,17.5,0.145,0.905,0.505,0.885,0.0
818, 4,21.0,0.070,0.900,0.100,0.875,0.0
824, 3,21.0,0.200,0.890,0.810,0.360,0.0
812, 2,21.5,0.075,0.890,0.740,0.360,0.0
799, 2,22.0,0.070,0.325,0.730,0.360,0.0
802, 2,19.0,0.100,0.325,0.180,0.910,0.0
836, 2,19.0,0.140,0.330,0.205,0.915,0.0
855, 2,20.0,0.155,0.925,0.690,0.905,0.0
908, 2,28.5,0.835,0.920,0.750,0.900,0.0
1014, 2,30.5,0.075,0.915,0.065,0.355,0.0
1308, 2,37.0,0.055,0.915,0.065,0.355,0.0
1818, 2,38.0,0.880,0.335,0.835,0.360,0.0
1812, 4,37.5,0.050,0.330,0.065,0.905,0.0
1499, 6,35.0,0.850,0.330,0.905,0.905,0.0
1461, 7,33.5,0.910,0.335,0.905,0.905,0.0
1500, 10,33.5,0.910,0.930,0.885,0.355,0.0
1450, 12,29.5,0.800,0.920,0.155,0.355,0.0
1840, 16,30.0,0.355,0.920,0.850,0.350,0.0
2287, 19,33.5,0.660,0.325,0.265,0.905,0.0
2618, 21,34.0,0.850,0.330,0.770,0.905,0.0
2865, 23,34.5,0.850,0.330,0.640,0.905,0.0
3100, 25,35.5,0.825,0.330,0.535,0.705,0.0
3305, 27,35.5,0.195,0.915,0.835,0.355,0.0
3494, 29,35.5,0.740,0.920,0.770,0.355,0.0
3688, 30,38.5,0.495,0.925,0.055,0.350,0.0
3708, 30,39.0,0.060,0.325,0.895,0.905,0.0
3761, 31,38.0,0.860,0.330,0.905,0.900,0.0
3910, 32,34.5,0.885,0.320,0.850,0.900,0.0
4169, 34,30.0,0.935,0.315,0.935,0.350,0.0
4675, 39,24.0,0.920,0.910,0.925,0.350,0.0
5430, 45,27.5,0.910,0.905,0.925,0.350,0.0
6029, 49,27.5,0.925,0.890,0.935,0.890,0.0
6583, 53,38.0,0.815,0.325,0.675,0.895,0.0
5883, 71,27.5,0.925,0.320,0.935,0.895,0.0
5065, 60,24.0,0.935,0.320,0.935,0.350,0.0
5268, 65,26.5,0.915,0.330,0.935,0.350,0.0
5572, 68,27.5,0.920,0.905,0.930,0.365,0.0
5870, 71,27.5,0.930,0.905,0.935,0.890,0.0
6168, 75,27.5,0.930,0.895,0.940,0.905,0.0
5988, 73,37.5,0.675,0.320,0.670,0.910,0.0
4818, 71,38.5,0.250,0.325,0.625,0.360,0.0
3995, 66,38.5,0.085,0.325,0.120,0.355,0.0
3269, 62,39.5,0.225,0.915,0.700,0.355,0.0
2714, 60,39.5,0.795,0.910,0.820,0.910,0.0
2280, 58,40.5,0.835,0.925,0.870,0.905,0.0
1991, 57,40.5,0.885,0.920,0.925,0.905,0.0
1833, 55,40.5,0.885,0.320,0.895,0.495,0.0
1698, 52,40.5,0.770,0.330,0.635,0.355,0.0
1546, 50,40.0,0.110,0.325,0.120,0.350,0.0
1488, 46,39.0,0.835,0.915,0.855,0.350,0.0
1413, 42,24.5,0.810,0.910,0.635,0.905,0.0
1206, 38,21.5,0.655,0.910,0.065,0.905,0.0
1068, 36,21.5,0.050,0.910,0.805,0.905,0.0
1016, 35,21.5,0.065,0.325,0.760,0.360,0.0
1008, 35,21.5,0.835,0.330,0.855,0.355,0.0
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so nobody wants to put their .02 in?
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Sorry, but you have way too much stuff there to read and it is all jammed together. Get rid of the rear O2s & vehicle speed, the extra zeros on the 02s and put some spacing between items and you'll have a better chance of getting a response.
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Ok I'll throw in my NZ 5 cents worth (we don't have 1 or 2 cent coins anymore - anyway NZ 5 cents is about US 2 cents).

Your figures look fine.

The O2 sensors are crossing over just fine - if they weren't you'd get a check engine light.
Bank 2 Sensor 1 is a little sluggish (no crossovers between frames 27..48) - try swap it with Bank 1 Sensor 1 and see if the sluggish behaviour migrates to Bank 1 or stays on Bank 2.

B2S2 looks fine - why do you think there is a problem with B2S2?

The spark timing looks great - it is peaking at around 40 when you're coasting- its drops back down to 20-30 on medium throttle - all good <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
I've seen well tuned cars that have a much more eratic spark advance than yours.
And zero knock.

Is the car missing under load?
Are there any flat spots?
Does it "feel" wrong?

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Have your replaced your rear O2 sensors with O2 simulators?
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Your values look OK.

What are you looking for???

When I ATAP my car for cruising around stuff (learning mode), I log the following parameters:

Lterm fuel B1, Lterm fuel B2, engine speed, ignition advance, MAF air flow rate, TPS, O2 sensor B1, O2 sensor B2, knock retard.

I am looking to see if my long term fuel trims are at of wack, that I have no KR, etc.

At WOT, I log the following:
Lterm fuel trim B1, engine speed, ignition timing, MAF air flow rate, TPS O2 sensor B1, KR.

At WOT (PE mode), I'm looking that I have 0% for Lterm fuel, TPS=100, timing up near 27 28degrees, O2 sensor value is it near 880mV, and no KR.

There really is no need to record the rear O2 sensors, vehicle speed, or stuff from B2 if you have some data showing the relationship between B1 and B2. One will be higher than the other, thats all.

Choose your engine parameters depending on what you are testing or looking for, no more.
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Hey guys thanks,

As you can see, I am fairly new.
Reason for asking is I have a burnt wire that the 02 simm goes onto from resting on the headers.
I have no KR but I feel a light vibration under light throtttle "around 1500 rpms" and I am beginning to think maybe its my pulley that I just replaced.
Maybe I messed up my bearings?
How can I tell if I have a broken valvespring?
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I think that a broken valvespring would cause the engine to run really bad, almost undrivable.




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