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Old 03-18-2006, 05:34 AM
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Question Where's the 2 Bar SD OS for the 98 PCM?

About a month or so ago, I emailed HP Tuners when the 2 bar SD would come out for the 98 PCMs and was told basically it wasn't anytime soon.

Is there a certain reason why? Is it because it can't be done or not worth the time to rewrite the code.

I have a buddy that has a 98 Formula running 10-12lbs boost and I'd like to run him in 2 bar sd mode.

What options do I have for him, wait, switch to 99+ PCM or wing it with the MAF on?

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do a search on the subject. there have been many threads on it. also call rick @ synergy moto. he has done them. you just put in a 2 bar map and adjust tables to correlate. my advice would be to call rick

as for hptuners and efilive i think there are not enough interests for them also i think it is very hard. the 98 pcm isnt giving much to work with.
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Watch the FI forum for Stenods or Harlans write up on the MAFT Pro, supposedly works well on a 98 turbocharged application right now...and he's going to push it past two bar
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I'm who Bill is talking about, and now I'm at 14psi.

I've been in email conversations with Rick @ Synergy, and this man knows his ****. I"lll be picking up a 2 bar MAP from Summit Racing and sending him my HPT file.

Too bad he's in Cali, but this is something I've hoping for since maxing my MAF
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Rick is awesome, he helped me out with a 2 bar SD tune too. Its working very well and that damn MAF is no longer an issue. I got the 2 bar map sensor from gmcarpartsdotcom.
I wish I was closer to him and his load dynos so I could really dial in the car
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Originally Posted by frcefed98
Rick is awesome, he helped me out with a 2 bar SD tune too. Its working very well and that damn MAF is no longer an issue. I got the 2 bar map sensor from gmcarpartsdotcom.
I wish I was closer to him and his load dynos so I could really dial in the car
Got a PN#?
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Originally Posted by frcefed98
GM PART # 12580698
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PACK QTY: 1 CORE CHARGE: $0.00
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OUR PRICE: $39.38
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No problem glad I could help
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Heh, Bill is my hero
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Originally Posted by frcefed98
Rick is awesome, he helped me out with a 2 bar SD tune too. Its working very well and that damn MAF is no longer an issue. I got the 2 bar map sensor from gmcarpartsdotcom.
I wish I was closer to him and his load dynos so I could really dial in the car
Would you mind covering the basics of whats involved with it?
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From what I understand, this 2 bar MAP sensor essentially "splits" the numerical values on the 1998 VE tables, allowing them work double.

I/E: You have a table that normally shows a value of "200", that value is now "100", which allows a bigger increase in tuning capabilities.

One of the other guys can make more sensor of it, but there's a start.
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Thanks for the info, sounds a lot like running dual MAF's... Hopefully somebody will pitch in with some additions.
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Once we get all our ducks in a row, it should be very interesting to get this to work. Hopefully when I use the VE AFR Histogram in my HP Tuner scanner, it will be as easy as: scan, cut, and paste in the Main & Secondary VE tables.
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DarkFormula has given a good explanation, other than splitting the values in half its just tuning like usual, but a WBO2 is mandatory if you don't already have one.

The man to contact on the in's and out's of this is Rick@synergymotorsports.

Until Harlan works out the ins and outs of the MAFT pro 2-3bar SD set up for 98+ LS1's this is a great alternative. Harlan is currently working on this set up on NA$TY-TA's turbocharged T/A...he's going to push that thing to 3 bar
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Yep, got a LM-1 WB to use with my HP Tuners
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Originally Posted by Billiumss
Yep, got a LM-1 WB to use with my HP Tuners
Will that coat hanger I have work to mount it?

Seriously, I'll be using Bill's WBO2 with a bung I'll have welded into my new exhaust being built. 4" Y-pipe (my duals on a lowered car catch EVERYTHING, including manhole covers)
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I need to order a wide band soon. I have been holding out for the MAFT, but i am gonna have to do something to get the car running in the mean time. How much is the stock MAF good to boost wise? I will only be running 6 to 8lbs for a while.

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I'd rather have true 2 bar capability than modifying my ve table, which would seem to cut the tables resolution by half. Hopefully HPT will come up with a solution. There are plenty of 98 users who would like the option. A turbo system is in my cars future.



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