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Old 12-02-2006, 12:45 AM
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what are some of the upper level numbers people have acheived on a stock pcm???
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what are some of the upper level numbers people have acheived on a stock pcm???


I made 842 @ 17 psi and it has ran as high as 22 psi at the track........
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whats the biggest injector you can use with the stock computer
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Originally Posted by bumpin_records
whats the biggest injector you can use with the stock computer

I believe they make 75#ers but im using a driver box to run 96#ers
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Originally Posted by NA$TY-TA
I believe they make 75#ers but im using a driver box to run 96#ers

nasty tell me what kinda computer setup do you have meaning compter the year and if your running mass airflow and what program whre can i get a driver box and what kinda of 96 injectors, just tell us all causeit seem like you have a pretty good set up
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For mine I run the acceleronics driver for the 96 lb injectors with a 2000 pcm. Anything 99+ is good.
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I believe the 96 lb injector are about as big as you would want to go on the driver box and stock computer. My car ran like crap on the 160's and im not aware of anything inbetween.
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Originally Posted by bumpin_records
nasty tell me what kinda computer setup do you have meaning compter the year and if your running mass airflow and what program whre can i get a driver box and what kinda of 96 injectors, just tell us all causeit seem like you have a pretty good set up

98 PCM. Tuned with HP Tuners for timing and everything else... fuel im using the MAF-T Pro. We ditched the MAF and went with a 3 BAR MAP sensor and the MAF-T Pro tells the stock PCM what to do as far as fuel.... and i have a LM-1 Wideband plugged into the MAF-T Pro that does corrective fueling.... ie add's/takes out fuel for set A/F.


Works awsome..... i dont change anything when i add oe take away boost.... with anything higher then 14psi ( my pump gas setting) I add race gas and thats it..... i know im leaving some power on the table with not adding timing then but im ok with it.....


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Which Map are you using? And wheres the best place to buy?

Also, MAF-T Pro... same as above..where to buy. I just bought a LC-1 (wInnovative wideband cable with round gauge for dash.... can that somehow work with the MAF-T Pro and allow me to keep the gauge? Is the MAF-T used only because its a 98? Im totally unaware of what it is or does.

I did pick up a versa-fueler... this will be my second stint with one... my local tuner had issues with picking up tach siggnal last time, so we ditched the 72's for 60's, but I beleive I need to go bigger again.

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Originally Posted by Jammer
Which Map are you using? And wheres the best place to buy?

Also, MAF-T Pro... same as above..where to buy. I just bought a LC-1 (wInnovative wideband cable with round gauge for dash.... can that somehow work with the MAF-T Pro and allow me to keep the gauge? Is the MAF-T used only because its a 98? Im totally unaware of what it is or does.

I did pick up a versa-fueler... this will be my second stint with one... my local tuner had issues with picking up tach siggnal last time, so we ditched the 72's for 60's, but I beleive I need to go bigger again.

fullthrottle and Stenod Performance both sell it....
Here this site explains alot....
http://maftpro.com/
Yes the LC-1 will work the same way as the LM-1
I went with it because i am a 98 and no one made/makes a 3 bar setup for it so we went with it...... Harlan was doing the beta testing for them and it worked awsome.....working awsome for me.....


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where do you put the map sensor on the carb style intake?
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Originally Posted by NA$TY-TA
98 PCM. Tuned with HP Tuners for timing and everything else... fuel im using the MAF-T Pro. We ditched the MAF and went with a 3 BAR MAP sensor and the MAF-T Pro tells the stock PCM what to do as far as fuel.... and i have a LM-1 Wideband plugged into the MAF-T Pro that does corrective fueling.... ie add's/takes out fuel for set A/F.


Works awsome..... i dont change anything when i add oe take away boost.... with anything higher then 14psi ( my pump gas setting) I add race gas and thats it..... i know im leaving some power on the table with not adding timing then but im ok with it.....


Kyle
so you can turn the boost from 14lbs to 23lbs and the MAF-T Pro will make sure the A/F stays safe?

how many presets do you have?

so if i'm reading correctly, this is the closest thing we have to the "flip chips" that Cobra guys use??
my buddy has an 03 Cobra and he has 4 different tunes, just flips a switch and it changes the tune.

1.pump gas
2. pump gas/n20
3. race gas
4. race gas/n20
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I made 952 rwhp overheating in 130 deg temps, should easily be in teh 1000+ range now with 30 deg weather LOL....

99 PCM with impedence converter and 96s. 3 bar tune.
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Originally Posted by Tiago
I made 952 rwhp overheating in 130 deg temps, should easily be in teh 1000+ range now with 30 deg weather LOL....

99 PCM with impedence converter and 96s. 3 bar tune.
what are you using for tuning w/ the 3 bar tune? HPTuners/EFI live?
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so what happens if you up the boost? do you carry a laptop w/ different tunes and then when you up the boost you load the coresponding tune?
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Originally Posted by TINKRD
so what happens if you up the boost? do you carry a laptop w/ different tunes and then when you up the boost you load the coresponding tune?

No need.... the 3-bar tune compensates per psi It only adds what it needs to. Run the boost high to low and get the fuel you need wherever you are at.
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Originally Posted by NA$TY-TA
I believe they make 75#ers but im using a driver box to run 96#ers
Which low impedence driver are you using? TIA
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Wow.. very informational thread so far. To get this strait though, with my 99 PCM I should no longer need the MAF T Pro, or will that still benifit me? Is that what allows for a single tune dealing well with all boost levels? Are you using the speed density option I assume??? ugg, I have to learn this all over again.. last time I cared about management, BS3 wasnt out and ls1edit was the shiznit. It high time I didnt leave all the tuning to someone else and I begin to grasp this better.

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