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Originally Posted by 2edybrd
**edit** oh yeah, The stereo could have more bass and fill the cabin a bit more.
play with the gain **** on the bass amplifier in the trunk...
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I did, the experience was...satisfactory. It's alot better, although I do get a bit of overheating on long trips. Iwould still like to feel that bass punch in the chest a bit more.
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Wow, HTRDLNCN, good stuff. Well-said! ![Happy](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_stretch.gif)
By the way, I just read that Edmunds thinks the "new" Camaro is way off:
It's all you could ask for when it comes to retro design rehashes. There's only one problem: Unlike the Challenger concept that looked ready for showrooms, this Camaro is nowhere near production spec — and it might not look quite so tough when it is.
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By the way, I just read that Edmunds thinks the "new" Camaro is way off:
It's all you could ask for when it comes to retro design rehashes. There's only one problem: Unlike the Challenger concept that looked ready for showrooms, this Camaro is nowhere near production spec — and it might not look quite so tough when it is.
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all the show cars look different once they become real cars,,lots of safety regulations,production cost reduction and other things that come in after product is first shown at car shows.
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Originally Posted by HTRDLNCN
I know its hard to erase people memory but if you can try just think if you never heard of a GTO and allo f a sudden Chevy said they were coming out with a plain looking midsize car with IRS,350- 400hp,siz speed for $30k .. I think a LOT more people would have been excited regardless the looks.
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Originally Posted by HTRDLNCN
all the show cars look different once they become real cars,,lots of safety regulations,production cost reduction and other things that come in after product is first shown at car shows.
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Originally Posted by demonspeed
And for everyone bashing on the Camaro/Firebird... On Yahoo this morning, the most searched about topic/item was the Camaro concept. And you guys think no one cares... ![Tongue](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_tongue.gif)
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It doesn't matter. Many people say there is no interest, etc etc. That's just one site that is browsed by millions. It's the same everywhere. There is interest, wheither it be good or bad, but it's still a popular topic.
And yes, the Challenger is much closer to be production ready than the Camaro - but what does that have to do with the fact that people are interested when the nay-sayers said it was dead?
And yes, the Challenger is much closer to be production ready than the Camaro - but what does that have to do with the fact that people are interested when the nay-sayers said it was dead?
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Originally Posted by demonspeed
It doesn't matter. Many people say there is no interest, etc etc. That's just one site that is browsed by millions. It's the same everywhere. There is interest, wheither it be good or bad, but it's still a popular topic.
And yes, the Challenger is much closer to be production ready than the Camaro - but what does that have to do with the fact that people are interested when the nay-sayers said it was dead?
And yes, the Challenger is much closer to be production ready than the Camaro - but what does that have to do with the fact that people are interested when the nay-sayers said it was dead?
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Originally Posted by HTRDLNCN
dunno,,when I picked up my car in NJ on drive back to Fla I had people asking about it everytime I filled up and even had an big rig driver STOP traffic to ask me about the car.. hasnt stopped since,,in fact its a lot more than I expected.
Some people go for class , some go for the "show off" style looks..
I choose class.
I agree it should NEVER have been called a GTO,,that bring back memories of breadbox shaped cars which this definately is not. They should have kept the Holden name and the Holden front bumper and not stuck all the silly pontiac crap on it.
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Some people go for class , some go for the "show off" style looks..
I choose class.
I agree it should NEVER have been called a GTO,,that bring back memories of breadbox shaped cars which this definately is not. They should have kept the Holden name and the Holden front bumper and not stuck all the silly pontiac crap on it.
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Originally Posted by DeepBlueZ
2003 was the first year in decades that GM didn't make a RWD performance-oriented car other than the corvette, which is too expensive for most anyway...I think that had a lot to do with why we got the Goat in '04.
So GM was a little out of practice in designing performance RWD coupes. The Monaro fit. It could be made to look like a run of the mill Pontiac, and by keeping them option all the same, (for the most part.) alot of the headaches were taken out of shipping. Fewer variants also makes them easier to maintain.
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to everyone that think GTO doesn't look good. Honda Civic is everywhere, to me it's the ugliest car out there but it sells a lot . With civic people hook them up nicely, they have some what of imagination. To me you could do so much to the GTO to make it look like whatever you whant , all you need is determination, Here is an example!!!
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Wheels are hot....yellow "stripe"...not. Looks good but still looks like a decent "grand prix"...sorry. I think its on the edge of almost looking bad...not mu cup of tea but its just my opinion....
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The originality of the GTO comes from the Grand Prix. Back in 64 they Had Grand Prix LeMans and then GTO, and in 1964-66 the LeMans edition came with the same body as the GTO , later in 68 had similar body to the olds442.
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Originally Posted by chaman
Wheels are hot....yellow "stripe"...not. Looks good but still looks like a decent "grand prix"...sorry. I think its on the edge of almost looking bad...not mu cup of tea but its just my opinion....
The aftermarket has also picked up quite a bit for the GTO recently. This is good also.
The car really does share lines with the Grand Prix, G6, Grand AM and even has a back end not to disimilar to the Cavalier and the Cobalt. Still the car has clean looks, and when put next to any of the above cars, looks quite a bit different due to size/porportions and of course underneath the body and inside, it's a whole other animal.
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I think that both sides of the fence are missing the point here...we are all "GM brothers", some of our rides came from up north and some came across the pond, I bet that somewhere out there you could find one that was actually stuck together here in the states,but at the end of the day, GM still got all of our money!!! I've had my TA for almost a year now and didn't think I could ever like a car as much as I like my TA, until, my wife comes home with an '04 Goat! The car is sweet...it's for sure a quick ride to the grocery store!!
Incase you old school folks haven't noticed, no car looks the same as it did 20 years ago!!! Just because they don't look the same doesn't mean they're not worthy of some respect!! Afterall, it does have a GM part number on the key just like your cars do!! I remember when they restyled the Camaro/Firebirds, everyone hated the change but now they are legends just like the previous body styles. Everyone is entitled to their personal preference but the GTO does deserve a little respect! My parting words: hail to the GM gods...let's try and keep them afloat!!!
Incase you old school folks haven't noticed, no car looks the same as it did 20 years ago!!! Just because they don't look the same doesn't mean they're not worthy of some respect!! Afterall, it does have a GM part number on the key just like your cars do!! I remember when they restyled the Camaro/Firebirds, everyone hated the change but now they are legends just like the previous body styles. Everyone is entitled to their personal preference but the GTO does deserve a little respect! My parting words: hail to the GM gods...let's try and keep them afloat!!!
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Originally Posted by HOT98TA
I think that both sides of the fence are missing the point here...we are all "GM brothers", some of our rides came from up north and some came across the pond, I bet that somewhere out there you could find one that was actually stuck together here in the states,but at the end of the day, GM still got all of our money!!! I've had my TA for almost a year now and didn't think I could ever like a car as much as I like my TA, until, my wife comes home with an '04 Goat! The car is sweet...it's for sure a quick ride to the grocery store!!
Incase you old school folks haven't noticed, no car looks the same as it did 20 years ago!!! Just because they don't look the same doesn't mean they're not worthy of some respect!! Afterall, it does have a GM part number on the key just like your cars do!! I remember when they restyled the Camaro/Firebirds, everyone hated the change but now they are legends just like the previous body styles. Everyone is entitled to their personal preference but the GTO does deserve a little respect! My parting words: hail to the GM gods...let's try and keep them afloat!!!![Happy](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_stretch.gif)
Incase you old school folks haven't noticed, no car looks the same as it did 20 years ago!!! Just because they don't look the same doesn't mean they're not worthy of some respect!! Afterall, it does have a GM part number on the key just like your cars do!! I remember when they restyled the Camaro/Firebirds, everyone hated the change but now they are legends just like the previous body styles. Everyone is entitled to their personal preference but the GTO does deserve a little respect! My parting words: hail to the GM gods...let's try and keep them afloat!!!
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Originally Posted by xp3nd4bl3
The GTO is an import! Therefore all GTO drivers are ricers! ![The Judge](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_judge.gif)
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oh and btw, all f-bods are CANADIAN, bitches!