Converter recommendations and tips for Blazer LS swap
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Converter recommendations and tips for Blazer LS swap
I've got a friend with a '94 full-size Blazer, 4X4.
He wants so swap in a 5.3 with a mild cam, but he wants to keep his original transmission/ transfer case.
To do this, I figured I would use the Fitzall TCC plug, a '99-'06 trans wiring harness, and a spacer on the crank hub.
While it's open, I'd also do all of the pan-drop upgrades.
Last of all, since he wants to cam it, I thought this would be a good time to upgrade to a higher stall converter. Since factory stall on that truck is something ridiculously low (1,300 rpm), I thought that converter from a 2000 S10 Blazer could work well (2000 rpm) at a low price.
Anything else you guys would recommend?
He wants so swap in a 5.3 with a mild cam, but he wants to keep his original transmission/ transfer case.
To do this, I figured I would use the Fitzall TCC plug, a '99-'06 trans wiring harness, and a spacer on the crank hub.
While it's open, I'd also do all of the pan-drop upgrades.
Last of all, since he wants to cam it, I thought this would be a good time to upgrade to a higher stall converter. Since factory stall on that truck is something ridiculously low (1,300 rpm), I thought that converter from a 2000 S10 Blazer could work well (2000 rpm) at a low price.
Anything else you guys would recommend?
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Personally I would recommend spending a little extra and going with a billet converter. You'll have a much more reliable converter with more stall options. If budget is a concern the converter you mentioned is likely your best option.
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#3
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Dont bother with that low of a stall. An engine with a cam really needs a stall converter. Youll be much happier with something like a 2800 or 3000 stall.
A friend of mine used a factory "high stall" converter with a 6.0 and bigger truck cam and it is an absolute turd at low rpm.
And the worst thing you can do is get a cheap stall converter, you really get what you pay for. I used a cheap one and it made a ton of heat and eventually killed my trans.
A friend of mine used a factory "high stall" converter with a 6.0 and bigger truck cam and it is an absolute turd at low rpm.
And the worst thing you can do is get a cheap stall converter, you really get what you pay for. I used a cheap one and it made a ton of heat and eventually killed my trans.
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I think in the early 4l60e shaft style the highest stock stall was the vette converter at 2000 RPM But they are getting hard to come by.
I had someone argue with me about the 1200 to 1400 stall on FB saying it didn't exist was to low to work lol . Actually it is the most common of the converters from that era.
I had someone argue with me about the 1200 to 1400 stall on FB saying it didn't exist was to low to work lol . Actually it is the most common of the converters from that era.
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I think in the early 4l60e shaft style the highest stock stall was the vette converter at 2000 RPM But they are getting hard to come by.
I had someone argue with me about the 1200 to 1400 stall on FB saying it didn't exist was to low to work lol . Actually it is the most common of the converters from that era.
I had someone argue with me about the 1200 to 1400 stall on FB saying it didn't exist was to low to work lol . Actually it is the most common of the converters from that era.
Torque converter aside, does the plan for the valve body sound like it will work?
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Yes that plan will work just fine for the VB and keep pcm happy , Actually you do not even need the FITZALL as the converter regulator valve works very differently , Basically it just pressure regulation and is brought on by 2nd clutch oil if I remember correctly . So should work just fine without the fitzall. Just needs the PWM solenoid and right 3-2 to keep PCM happy .
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I think in the early 4l60e shaft style the highest stock stall was the vette converter at 2000 RPM But they are getting hard to come by.
I had someone argue with me about the 1200 to 1400 stall on FB saying it didn't exist was to low to work lol . Actually it is the most common of the converters from that era.
I had someone argue with me about the 1200 to 1400 stall on FB saying it didn't exist was to low to work lol . Actually it is the most common of the converters from that era.
Custom grind cams, 114 & lower lobe center, big duration, large overlap cams require more than 2500 stalls. That's when HP, torque, gear ratio & vehicle weight are required info for custom built converters.
400hp-500hp is the biggest range for most because all it takes is "bolt on's" to achieve that range of performance. A stock 325HP LS with a mild cam & well tuned with make 450HP and you can add another 100HP by bolting on NOS or a belt driven supercharger.
I uploaded a few pages from the Consolidated Vehicle Converter catalog on the converters in question.
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Okay guys, here's an update:
1) I talked him into getting a converter. I don't know what he's going to pick yet.
2) I did a line-pressure check on the transmission, and the most it can make is about 170 in "OD/ D". This is with the main electrical connector unplugged.
Obviously, this is not ideal.
Do any of you think that a Sonnax .490 boost valve will fix it?
If not, and the pump is shot, has anyone ever SUCCESSFULLY replaced a pump on one of these transmissions in the vehicle?
I was thinking that I could put pressure on the 2/4 servo, tighten the band, and pull the pump out.
I want some of you smart guys to tell me if this is a stupid idea or not. I really don't want to take this transmission out, but if I have to, I will.
1) I talked him into getting a converter. I don't know what he's going to pick yet.
2) I did a line-pressure check on the transmission, and the most it can make is about 170 in "OD/ D". This is with the main electrical connector unplugged.
Obviously, this is not ideal.
Do any of you think that a Sonnax .490 boost valve will fix it?
If not, and the pump is shot, has anyone ever SUCCESSFULLY replaced a pump on one of these transmissions in the vehicle?
I was thinking that I could put pressure on the 2/4 servo, tighten the band, and pull the pump out.
I want some of you smart guys to tell me if this is a stupid idea or not. I really don't want to take this transmission out, but if I have to, I will.
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I would be careful about r&ring the pump with the transmission horizontal. maybe not as big of a deal on a 4L60E but years ago helped a buddy do a rear main on his squarebody. while the transmission was out we put a shift kit in and pulled the pump to do a new seal & bushing. i went to stand up the transmission vertically and my buddy was adamant that was not necessary so I bolted the pump in. Turned out a bunch of clutches fell out of place and the pump pinched them while getting installed. anyway, transmission had to come out and he took it to trans shop for a rebuild. it of course was my fault even though i had wanted to stand the transmission vertically as I had done on previous 700R4 rebuilds.