Originally Posted by oddwraith

Maybe not, but not nearly as "untouchable" as some of us first assumed.

Originally Posted by Ke^in

I also said the 5th is faster than the 4th stock for stock. And it is. Just because someone in a 4th gen beat someone in a 5th gen it doesn't suddenly make that car faster. Capiche?
If a slower car beats a faster car, it's because of the faster car has a sucky driver.

Unless all of you are willing to say 2v GTs are faster than Ls1 fbodies.

Originally Posted by liqidvenom

5th gen camaros stock run in the low 13's high 12's. i have no idea on what up hill track you live by.



someone is going to come in here and call that a lie as well.


but to recap, a tune and it was deep into the 12's. tire and into the 11's. but stock ls1's have nothing to worry about... yep.

Originally Posted by mannyman84

your comparing ford and GM now. I'm talking about ls's and u come with 2v GT. We all know they are no competition to the ls unless heavily modded. I have not only seen vids but ran one myself and were neck to neck. So unless u have proof that the ls1 fbody is dramaticly slower than the 2010 ss then u have no knowledge of these vehicles and what they are capable of.

Originally Posted by oddwraith

What makes you the authority anyways? Did you even watch the video? What indications did you see there that the Mustang driver sucked, or that the Camaro was modded? Talk about jumping to conclusions.

Originally Posted by oddwraith

11s with a tune and tires lol. Yeah, we'll all believe that one for sure

Originally Posted by oddwraith

No you can't, and I don't expect you too. Personally I find a lot more ignorant stang guys than anything else, and that includes import dudes btw. Also, most guys on here aren't too bad with welcoming our Ford buddys in our forum.

Originally Posted by liqidvenom

have you read anything important in this thread?

driver drove the vehicle with traction control on. simple keys to how traction control works in modern vehicles that come with it. normally it also comes with some form of tq management to keep the power down during shifts. so if the vehicle is killing ignition, prob pulsing the brakes and prob activation tq management those things will add up to hurt its performance. plain and simple.

start from post #1 and read everything.

Originally Posted by oddwraith

Who is worked up? I like having Mustangs to whoop on. Oh and btw, I have a twenty thousand dollar line of credit=-think I can make my car real fast so that way I'm more respected? Think about what you say dude, anyone can have a fast car, but being quick on your feet is another story. Don't get mad man, I'm just stating my opinions and asking questions like you are. I wasn't the one who wanted to call you a name but didn't for fear of being banned boo hoooo. Now smarten up or we WILL get this thread closed and one of us will end up at least warned. Peace bro.

Btw. my car runs quite a bit quicker than a 13.4 Oh let me guess, that's not your real e.t. haha. Ford guys, gotta love em.

Originally Posted by oddwraith

Oh **** not another one lmao. Yeah I know how traction control works buddy. My point is with that car, in that scenario, it wasn't going to spin a whole lot anyways. Btw tm is only really a factor on automatics. Some of us have lives and can't read the WHOLE thread my man, but then again SOME of us don't need to. You see, I base my opinions of my own inclinations, not what other people say or what I WANT to believe. There are a whole forest of trees here, don't bark up the one that's likely going to fall and crush you

Originally Posted by oddwraith

Oh **** not another one lmao. Yeah I know how traction control works buddy. My point is with that car, in that scenario, it wasn't going to spin a whole lot anyways. Btw tm is only really a factor on automatics. Some of us have lives and can't read the WHOLE thread my man, but then again SOME of us don't need to. You see, I base my opinions of my own inclinations, not what other people say or what I WANT to believe. There are a whole forest of trees here, don't bark up the one that's likely going to fall and crush you

Originally Posted by ponygt65

And why don't you?

WHy are so many guys getting so darn defensive over what's going on?

I find it amazingly ignorant that some members claim proof and want a video, or their video is enough proof for them, but for some reason this and a few dyno sheets isn't enough to show what this car can do........then all of a sudden one video pops up of a fbod vs. 5.0 and then that's all the proof they need??....a tad of a double standard no?

jealousy?....fanboyism?...ignorance...I mean what is it?

Originally Posted by liqidvenom

ignorant is one thing but it seems alot of people in this thread are just egging alone the rest of you guys. you would have to be blind to the truth to even think their is a competition that a stock 4th gen can compete with a stock 2011 gt.


its just what happens when 15yrs or so happens in automotive evolution.

Originally Posted by ponygt65

That sounds like an Ethuggish comment.

Originally Posted by mannyman84

your comparing ford and GM now. I'm talking about ls's and u come with 2v GT. We all know they are no competition to the ls unless heavily modded. I have not only seen vids but ran one myself and were neck to neck. So unless u have proof that the ls1 fbody is dramaticly slower than the 2010 ss then u have no knowledge of these vehicles and what they are capable of.

Originally Posted by oddwraith

11s with a tune and tires lol. Yeah, we'll all believe that one for sure

Originally Posted by Stopsign32v

You can hope and pray all you want until you are blue in the face. But its coming and its going to happen.
No, it's not actually.
Better take that money you speak of and mod that turd before you run into a 11' Mustang GT. Or else make sure to let him know if any of the bulbs in his tail lights are out.

Originally Posted by bah321

look...I drove a new 5.0...im not surprised with the high 11s car those guys did. It will run low 12s all day with JUST a good set of tires plus skinnies.

On the street can a stock ls1 beat it?.....yeah sure....ive seen bigger upsets.