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Old 05-13-2010, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by z99ls1
Haaa all the ford loyalist see the video and can't admit the defeat. Excuses excuses, he got the jump and still got pulled. He looked like he was shifting fine and you say they need time to break in ? LOL. Is that why they are running "12.8" stock and getting beat by stock ls1's.
did you even read what the owner of the 2011 said?
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The only times I trust are ones I see in person at the track. I wouldn't take these 5.0s too lightly. The mustang will always lose the $/speed ratio over the camaro simply because of how depreciated our cars are now. The same could be said of any used car.

With that, lets just see some real races at the track, highway rolls are no way to test a car especially with a video like this one.
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Originally Posted by Ju1ce
Understand this, if you think the 2011 GT is as quick as motortrend has been plugging, you've been duped. This video is only the beginning of the end.

It's gonna be 1999 all over again!
Nope....I simply don't draw conclusion as the norm. based of one instance.......no matter what the car is. I'd say the same if it was a GTO, Gen5, Vette or even a Honda. I'm not narrow minded like that.

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did you even read what the owner off the 2011 said?
Consider the source of the comment man. z99ls is just another bowtie loyalist.
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Originally Posted by Ju1ce
Understand this, if you think the 2011 GT is as quick as motortrend has been plugging, you've been duped. This video is only the beginning of the end.

It's gonna be 1999 all over again!
Then why did the 2011 mustang drag a 2010 Camaro at an abandoned airstrip? Are the new Camaros slower than the 4th gens in stock form?

Seat time buddy, seat time.
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Oh what I'd give to be the first person with a 6 speed 2011 GT.
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Originally Posted by liqidvenom
did you even read what the owner of the 2011 said?
Yea I did, Im not one who thinks the new mustangs are coming out and there are going to run slow. I just think Ford has been giving motortrend there cars on the condition that they give them a bit of an overrated time slip in there magazines and vids. All I see the the new 5th gen camaro's down here running 13.5-13.6's, so I think the new GT's will be fast, but not 12's stock. Maybe with drag radials, track package sheet, and perfect weather, but thats about it.
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Originally Posted by Ju1ce
Understand this, if you think the 2011 GT is as quick as motortrend has been plugging, you've been duped. This video is only the beginning of the end.

It's gonna be 1999 all over again!
Ok. Now I want to ask you a serious question.

And please try to answer this as honestly as possible...
Have you ever:

A) Driven a new 2010 Camaro, and had ample seat time

or

B) Seen a new 2010 Camaro at the track, known the mods of said car, AND talked to or know the driver to find out if he/she were competant?


I'll wait for this reply to make my next point...
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This is just epic
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Originally Posted by z99ls1
Yea I did, Im not one who thinks the new mustangs are coming out and there are going to run slow. I just think Ford has been giving motortrend there cars on the condition that they give them a bit of an overrated time slip in there magazines and vids. All I see the the new 5th gen camaro's down here running 13.5-13.6's, so I think the new GT's will be fast, but not 12's stock. Maybe with drag radials, track package sheet, and perfect weather, but thats about it.
WHy? I mean honestly, aside from favor GM cars, what would lead you to believe that? Especially with what happened to Ford and the '99 Cobra.

I'm just curious to hear anyone's opinion that thinks that.
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I have an 02 Formula that is purely stock. I would love to meet a 5.0 in my area. My clutch is slipping a little, but I would be interested to see if a factory LS6 block car could hold its own with the new blue oval pony running around.
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Originally Posted by AWDTBSS
This is just epic
No kidding! LOL
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Originally Posted by Chaotic Deconstruct
I have an 02 Formula that is purely stock. I would love to meet a 5.0 in my area. My clutch is slipping a little, but I would be interested to see if a factory LS6 block car could hold its own with the new blue oval pony running around.
factory LS6 block car?
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Originally Posted by Chaotic Deconstruct
I have an 02 Formula that is purely stock. I would love to meet a 5.0 in my area. My clutch is slipping a little, but I would be interested to see if a factory LS6 block car could hold its own with the new blue oval pony running around.


what am I missing here?
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Originally Posted by Ju1ce
Understand this, if you think the 2011 GT is as quick as motortrend has been plugging, you've been duped. This video is only the beginning of the end.

It's gonna be 1999 all over again!

Is this why evo has ran a 11.8x constantly? Oh excuse me, had a slight tune ( did not mess with TIVCT ), drop in KN,off road x and catback, big and littles with et streets, and upper and lower control arms.


Edit: since you like videos..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qc4Xb7G1ck

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Old 05-13-2010, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ponygt65
WHy? I mean honestly, aside from favor GM cars, what would lead you to believe that? Especially with what happened to Ford and the '99 Cobra.

I'm just curious to hear anyone's opinion that thinks that.
I believe it, to an extent. I don't think MT would fudge the #s. I honestly believe the 5.0s they received ran those times. Problem is, you will be hard pressed to get a 5.0 off the dealer lot with those same #s without some tweaks.

This is the problem with testing a model that, at the time, hasn't hit the market yet. You don't know what is stock and what is optioned. You also don't know what the company has replaced on it to get the #s they want. Anyone remember the RX8? Magazines tested it with 250hp. They really left the showroom floor with 230.

I still don't believe the 5.0 has 368rwhp. Its more like 345-350. Trap speeds don't lie. 107mph with 3.31s and 110mph with 3.73s and track pack.
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So the 5.0 had a 250lb passenger, traction control on and 8 miles on the car.....

I'd say he did pretty well! I like the new mustang (flame suit on)
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Everyone is acting as if the outcome was a landslide here. It appeared that the SS had him by only a car or maybe two at the end. So to me it seems like a case of even up the weight differance, give the 5.0 a few more miles to break in, and run em again from a deadstop and roll with video. I am not surprised by this outcome and like people have said anything is possible when you are on the street. So many variables...
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since when has the fate of a car been decided on 1 video?


.......but i gotta admit, that is damn funny.
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Originally Posted by AWDTBSS
This is just epic
Only in the stupidity being posted in this thread.
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Originally Posted by jabawalkie
I believe it, to an extent. I don't think MT would fudge the #s. I honestly believe the 5.0s they received ran those times. Problem is, you will be hard pressed to get a 5.0 off the dealer lot with those same #s without some tweaks.

This is the problem with testing a model that, at the time, hasn't hit the market yet. You don't know what is stock and what is optioned. You also don't know what the company has replaced on it to get the #s they want. Anyone remember the RX8? Magazines tested it with 250hp. They really left the showroom floor with 230.

I still don't believe the 5.0 has 368rwhp. Its more like 345-350. Trap speeds don't lie. 107mph with 3.31s and 110mph with 3.73s and track pack.
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2011 Ford Mustang GT Dyno Test - The Real World
Evolution Performance scooped up an '11 Mustang GT and hit the track and dyno

From the April, 2010 issue of 5.0 Mustang & Super Fords
Obviously we are all excited about the '11 Mustang GT finally hitting dealer lots. We'll be following the developments closely, including watching over the shoulder of a few shop project cars. The first shop out of the gate is the crew at Evolution Performance. Check out their new ride after the jump...

After picking up the car, they drove it 70 miles straight to the drag strip, and made some heat-soaked passes resulting in a best run of 13.2 at 110 mph. That was on the stock tires with a 2.10 60-foot.

Obviously there's better performance to be had with a cool down, sticky tires, and the like. However, the Evo boys have their sights set on beyond-stock performance, and were ready to tinker right away with the exhaust and such.

Before doing so, however, Fred Cook, Nelson Whitlock, and the boys strapped the GT down to the company's in-house Mustang Dynamometer. This is a six-speed car with the optional 3.73s, and the test was run in fifth-gear, which is 1:1. The result was 368.60 horsepower and 352.48 lb-ft of torque at the rear wheels.

So, the TiVCT 5.0 modification revolution has begun. Stay tuned here for updates and to the pages of 5.0&SF magazine for more in-depth coverage as the aftermarket starts making Coyotes howl!


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