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Old 05-13-2010, 01:07 PM
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I think what he was saying is when the cars start coming out and people are dynoing them at that he will believe it but hes not believing magazines numbers, which is a good thing because magazines are full of ****.
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The car Evolution dyno'd may not have been 'stock'. As in off the showroom floor. With close to 370rwhp and optioned out with 3.73 gears, it would have ran well past 110mph. Either that car wasn't stock or the 5.0 weighs more than first tested. Trap speed says a lot.
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Really? LS1 guys see one video of an '02 SS beating a '11 GT and they have enough evidence to determine that the GT is slower than LS1 F-bodies, and overrated from the factory?

It seems like a bunch of street racing virgins need wipe up the mess you made all over the keyboard in front of you, and learn about how much the outcome can be affected by driving and extra weight. Learn the meaning of the addage, "anything can happen on the street."

Everything you know about that video is an assumption. Do you know for sure that the SS is stock? Even granting that assumption, what did you honestly think would happen when a 12.8@111 car with an extra 250 lbs passenger, and the non-performance gears raced a car that in stock form has gone 12s@110ish mph? Even if this F-body is a 13.5@107 slow poke, that's still easily capable of outrunning a driver that doesn't power shift, and doesn't stay in the gears to redline. If the Stang owner was shifting at 6k instead of 7k, that's easily enough to allow an LS1 to crush the GT.

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So your saying its a drivers race?
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Originally Posted by necrocannibal
I think what he was saying is when the cars start coming out and people are dynoing them at that he will believe it but hes not believing magazines numbers, which is a good thing because magazines are full of ****.
Kind of figured, but still thought I would post. Trying to find the one that was posted after that one, that had the drop in filter with small tune and off road X pipe with cat back. Posted 405/375. But I understand what is being said.

This car was from the dealership and wasn't a test car from ford. Still take it with a grain of salt.
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Originally Posted by jabawalkie
The car Evolution dyno'd may not have been 'stock'. As in off the showroom floor. With close to 370rwhp and optioned out with 3.73 gears, it would have ran well past 110mph. Either that car wasn't stock or the 5.0 weighs more than first tested. Trap speed says a lot.

38xx with a driver and full tank of gas.
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Originally Posted by jjs89lx
38xx with a driver and full tank of gas.
Now that sounds about right. Ford claimed a month ago the 5.0 would weigh 3520.
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
factory LS6 block car?
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what am I missing here?
I have one of the latter model 4th Gen's that have the LS6 block instead of the LS1 block. The latter models from 01 and 02 also had the LS6 intake standard. Some say the LS6 blocks are better, others argue that the LS1 is supreme. I know that the LS6 blocks have better oil flow at higher rpms allegedly, but I can't say that would produce any more power over the LS1 motors. Some believe the 02 Formula's are some of the quickest F-bodies in existance stock for stock, so I thought I would offer one up againest the new 5.0 that is out.
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Originally Posted by Chaotic Deconstruct
I have one of the latter model 4th Gen's that have the LS6 block instead of the LS1 block. The latter models from 01 and 02 also had the LS6 intake standard. Some say the LS6 blocks are better, others argue that the LS1 is supreme. I know that the LS6 blocks have better oil flow at higher rpms allegedly, but I can't say that would produce any more power over the LS1 motors. Some believe the 02 Formula's are some of the quickest F-bodies in existance stock for stock, so I thought I would offer one up againest the new 5.0 that is out.
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This thread keeps getting better...
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Just saw this lol



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So the 5.0 had a 250lb passenger, traction control on and 8 miles on the car.....

I'd say he did pretty well! I like the new mustang (flame suit on)
also keep in mind that traction control is going to step in on the 1-2 shift and cause a real lag. it cuts timing and closes the throttle with a slow recovery.

it is pretty obvious that the new 5.0 is faster than stock LS1 fbodies.... now where the hell are we going to find a stock ls1 fbody?
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Why doesn't that poster say 302 vs. 346...I'll wait for your answer.

Don't need to be mucking up that poster with facts or anything, do we?
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We're gonna let this one fly too

If you guys make personal attacks, I'm gonna ban you but we'll try to keep this trainwreck open
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lmao at that poster
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Originally Posted by BobDoLe
also keep in mind that traction control is going to really step in on the 1-2 shift and cause a real lag. it cuts timing and closes the throttle with a slow recovery.

it is pretty obvious that the new 5.0 is faster than LS1 fbodies.
I'm glad there are SOME LS guys who have respect for a fast car, even if it isn't a GM.

That's the main difference I notice between Mustang owners and Camaro/WS6/LSanything owners. Mustang guys will give due credit to a fast GM car, whereas most GM guys turn a blind eye and can never ever ever ever give credit to a fast Mustang, no matter what. Just keep adding to the stereotype
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Originally Posted by ArcticMissile
Just saw this lol



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Found another. This is going to get ugly rofl.



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^^^ hahahahahahaha
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